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Ford Transit 2.0 TDCi FIFA 2006 - Non start - Fixed #

Posted by Shane Gray on July 29, 2013, 5:28 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2006
Engine Size and Code *: 2.0 TDCI FIFA
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Hi,
I have had this transit in and it,s been a nightmare.
First it was in as an non runner and I diagnosed low pressure pump in high pressure pump, due to costs the customer opted for second hand pump which we fitted with new timing chain kit.
It started after fitment but it was running rough and fuel pressure was erratic, so did leak off test on injectors then sent for tested which all were faulty, Had all injectors reconed and refitted and reprogrammed.
Van would not start after refitting but found fault with crank sensor fitted new one then started first time.
Now it runs and fuel pressure is steady and have good pressure on full boost. Turbo waste gate is working and vacuum solenoid also same with EGR, But I still have a slight miss at 2500 rpm and it blue smokes.
I,m Going to scope cam and crank tomorrow and see weather timing is correct.
Any advice please.
P.s No fault codes now. I have done a compression test but only with pico scope (no diesel compression kit, but got one on order)
Shane

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by Tony Bickers <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5143' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2013, 5:40 pm, in reply to "FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Tony Bickers

Had similar once on a Mondeo, how noisy was engine before chain kit fitted?

The one I had had been slapping around allowing valve to piston contact and had loosened the inlet rocker shaft bolts, pull the cover and have a look.

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by Shane Gray <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2013, 6:54 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Shane Gray

Hi,
The chain guide had one snapped bolt in it, I will check tomorrow .
Thanks
Shane

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 29, 2013, 9:48 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Alan Lange

These are also prone to cracked pistons-(look for the regular puff from the dipstick tube). But if it was compression related the miss should be more noticeable on idle.

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by SHANE GRAY <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 30, 2013, 10:48 am, in reply to "FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Shane Gray

Hi all,
Nightmare continues

Went to scope cam and crank this morning and starter motor has packed up

Will do tests when second hand starter turns up.
(customer wants all second hand parts as its costing a lot of money) I have told him second hand is false economy as you don't no what your getting

.
Shane

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by Kevin Apps <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2589' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 30, 2013, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"

Shane

"Nightmare continues"
and not for the first time.

Are you that desperate for work,that you are fitting S/H parts knowing it will be grief.

Dual-mass next before you see the back of it?

Kev.

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by SHANE GRAY <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 30, 2013, 5:26 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Shane Gray

Kev,
Not desperate for work but when you live in a poor part of the country and customers have no money you have to do what they say or they wont pay.
The second hand pump I have fitted is working fine, good low pressure and good high pressure!
Shane

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 30, 2013, 9:41 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Lee Mackintosh

Wish we had the luxury of telling customers we don't fit any used parts of any description but I know if I took that attitude I would lose work especially on the bodywork side.

If the customer agrees they may have to pay labour twice if there part is faulty then I think its ok but it does depend on what parts they arel

Probably find some used starters/alternators are better than the cheap rubbish supplied these days.

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by shane gray <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 5, 2013, 4:36 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Shane Gray

Hi,
Had starter and all good, have scoped cam and crank.
looks good to me?

shane

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by shane gray <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3442' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 5, 2013, 5:14 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Shane Gray

Scoped MAF, I snapped throttle to full revs then off.
Any advice?
Does it look ok?
Shane

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by John Larose <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat3548' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 5, 2013, 9:01 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
John Larose

Hi,

Don't know if you have but removed the rocker cover and check that the rocker shaft is bolted down correctly. Had a few that the bolt have worked loose or the threads in the head have cracked.

John

Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM

Posted by colin bell <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1354' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 6, 2013, 7:55 pm, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Colin Bell

hi shane
it might be worth getting those injectors tested and open up the fuel filter to check for metal particles from the faulty pump
colin

Fixed #

Posted by Shane Gray on August 7, 2013, 8:55 am, in reply to "Re: FORD / TRANSIT MISFIRE AT 2500 RPM"
Edited by board administrator August 7, 2013, 3:25 pm

Hi,
Pulled off rocker cover and all was good.
Found fault with turbo waste gate it was sticking.
It was working when operated with mitivac and there was vacuum from solenoid But was sticking enough not to open fully on solenoid vacuum. worked back and fore and presto no smoke.
Thanks for advice.

Shane

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