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BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank - Fixed #

Posted by Phil Madeira on May 31, 2013, 12:01 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2004
Engine Size and Code *: 3.0d m57d30

This car came to us as none start.
There is no crank feed at the starter motor, vehicle will start if fed 12v to crank feed on starter.
There is a crank feed at the rear of the ignition switch , with the info we have available we cannot see a relay or fuse allocation ? We are thinking this crank feed may go to an immobiliser unit? Only stored dtcs are for glow plugs .
Any help would be much appreciated .
Thanks Phil

Re: bmw x5

Posted by Kevin Apps <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2589' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 31, 2013, 12:35 pm, in reply to "bmw x5 none start - no crank"
Kevin Apps

Phil

Auto-data has wiring diagram for starter, does your code reader cover all systems fitted ?

Kev.

Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank #

Posted by Ed Kaps <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5536' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 31, 2013, 2:17 pm, in reply to "BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank #"
Edward Kaps

Phil
EWS on the X5 controls fuel and crank via the ECU, if it starts and runs when T50 flashed then EWS is working and signalling ECU to release fuel though it should allow start release via T50 at the same time-unusual to have one and not the other, T50 relay is internal in the EWS unit and not replacable seperately.

Ed Kaps

Fixed #

Posted by Phil Madeira on May 31, 2013, 8:14 pm, in reply to "Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank #"
Edited by board administrator June 4, 2013, 2:10 pm

Hi Kevin and Ed,
Really appreciate your input. After posting this afternoon I trawled the web looking for a wiring diagram, the link on Ukat for bmw wiring diagrams doesn't seem to work. I came across an article about a user enabled immobiliser fitted to some models of bmw. The user can input through the satnav a four digit code which can immobilise the vehicle. If the code is forgotten there is an emergency override procedure. The procedure is to disconnect battery for two minutes, reconnect, switch ignition to position one, alarm sounds for a short while, display on satnav also showed a timer counting down from 10 minutes . Also on the display is space to enter the code. If you have the code you can enter it at this point. After it has counted down to 0, car should start. This to my surprise worked !!!
I contacted the lady who owns the car to see if She was aware of this and She didn't know anything about it. She has had the car for six years. The car starts every time now and as I understand it the immobiliser only operates when the user activates it on leaving the car, it does not re arm. I have kept hold of the car to keep trying it . Sorry for the long winded post but it might save someone a bit of time in the future. Still don't know why it set itself though??

Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?

Posted by Dave Harney <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2603' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 1, 2013, 8:28 am, in reply to "Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?"

Hi Phil,
Try this link for future use....

You can trim a sheeps wool many times, but you can only fleece it once !

Link: BMW Info

Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?

Posted by Dave Hill <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2783' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 3, 2013, 6:04 pm, in reply to "Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?"

Enjoy it while you can though...

These FREE information outlets are disappearing with increased frequency lately.

Thanks for sharing Dave.

Typically generous of you

Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?

Posted by Phil Madeira <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat1479' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 3, 2013, 8:38 pm, in reply to "Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?"
Philip Madeira

Car gone now, many thanks guys for taking time to post responses, much appreciated,
Regards Phil

Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?

Posted by Phil Madeira <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=ukat1479' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 3, 2013, 8:45 pm, in reply to "Re: BMW X5 3.0d 2004 - Non start, no crank # maybe fixed?"
Philip Madeira

Thanks for the help , car's gone now,
Regards Phil

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