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Ford Transit 2.4 Di FXFA 2004 - Cut out and non start #

Posted by Simon Dean on February 5, 2012, 5:59 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 15/07/2004
Engine Size and Code *: 2.4DI FXFA
( Optional ) Scanner Used: KTS-AD

Hi
Could anyone assist with a ford engine man diagram for this transit which does not have a pre supply fuel pump (Esi and autodata for this engine code show a pre supply pump).

No codes engine ecu/immob or edc control unit.
Trying to confirm if this vehicle has an edc control relay fitted(we have found the main relay for the engine ecu and this checks out but some other engine code diagrams show an additional relay.

Timing ok-speed signal present-edc unit tested and ok(not vehicle wiring yet/job in the morning)-immob light seems to be functioning correctly and no errors.

If anyone can confirm a ford wiring diagram and any overview it would be appreciated.

VIN...WF0LXXTTFL4C61325

TIA
Simon

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 5, 2012, 9:37 pm, in reply to "Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Mark Carter

what's actually wrong with the vehicle?

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by Kevin Apps <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2589' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 5, 2012, 10:10 pm, in reply to "Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Kevin Apps

Simon
AD show a fuel pump relay and a lift pump relay (which it very unlikely to have) TIS shows similar. AD diagram of the engine management is easier than fords to use.

I would be very surprised if IDS showed no codes.
Do you have a feed to pin 7 at the injection pump.

Kev.

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by Simon Dean <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5221' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 6, 2012, 7:36 am, in reply to "Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Simon Dean

Morning.

Hi Mark as above it cut out and now non start.

So cut out on the road and then non start.
Kev first job this morning is power and grounds so will update tonight.

Will go with auto data first and yes may need someone with IDS,
Thanks
Simon

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by lee mackintosh <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 6, 2012, 8:15 am, in reply to "Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Lee Mackintosh

According to autodata that engine code FXFA is a TDCi not a Di so i'd assume its a common rail.

If this is the case i didn't think it had any supplies to the pump to check.

It does have an engine control relay that feeds power to various solenoids including the pressure regulator on the pump, relay is switched earth through ecu pin 9.

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by Kevin Apps <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT2589' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 6, 2012, 12:08 pm, in reply to "Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Kevin Apps

Lee

AD and tolerance list FXFA as Di.

Kev.

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by lee mackintsoh <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 6, 2012, 12:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Lee Mackintosh

Kev,

Sorry mate, yes its still a DI but 115 psi which is only listed as a common rail TDCi from chassis number on ford ETIS.

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by Simon Dean <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT5221' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 11, 2012, 1:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Simon Dean

Hi All.
Auotdata and Esi diagrams are incorrect for this vehicle,however when you look at how many transit variants there are its hardly suprising.

This is a DI and not tdci.
I managed with the fxfa diagram although not perfect it allowed me to find my way around the system.
Fault was a voltage drop on the supply wire to the edc control unit under cranking conditions(pin 7 i think)this was a wiring fault in the engine loom.
Fixed this and vehicle was up and running.
Left over night and difficult to start(seperate issue)this turned out to be the fuel filter housing drawing air in so replaced this and all is well.

Thanks to all
Simon

Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start

Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/ukautotalk8/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 11, 2012, 1:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Ford Transit 2.4di-cut out/non start"
Lee Mackintosh

Thanks for that, just shows my data was wrong as well.

Appologise for not supplying the correct info with regards to which system was used.

Anyway at least its fixed.

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