on May 18, 2026, 7:32 pm, in reply to "On the Blue Room they said Moyes brings stability but removes belief. nt"
As I've said below, not all the decisions that have been made turned out to be correct, and everything has indeed tailed off towards the end of the season, but do we honestly think that this is just due to "stubbornness" from Moyes alone? Do we think he doesn't actually WANT to win these games? I know the buck stops with him, but I just don't understand thinking like that. Moyes knows what will happen if the results don't go our way, but the suggestion seems to be that he's somehow blind to that and just does what he wants anyway, and I just don't see that being the case.
I can see why some people see Moyes 1.0 as "knife to a gunfight" but that was a different backroom situation and (for me) a different Moyes. I genuinely think the football we've played under Moyes 2.0 has at least attempted to be more attractive and attacking than we've seen for quite a few years.
I accept that he could/should have rotated his squad a bit more, relied less on the likes of McNeil, and involved some of the younger less experienced players - but that could very easily have led to us having even fewer points and being further down the table - and we'd still have a load of unhappy Evertonians calling for his head.
I've enjoyed going to the match this season without that sense of dread, that knot in my stomach, without looking at the teams below us and what fixtures they've got, and despite some absolute stinking performances, overall it's been enjoyable and - for me at least - there are clear signs that we're heading in the right direction.
I understand why people feel that we've "fallen short" - we probably have if you look at where we were a few weeks ago - but then others accept that it was maybe a false position anyway?
It's also funny how there has been virtually no mention today of those recent VAR decisions and the points lost due to those. Even just a win over Man City and a draw against West Ham would - for me - be a perfect indication of what a fine line there is - as would those late goals we've conceded - literally just a matter of minutes in it. Just a few minutes out of a whole season. With those extra points (which don't really have anything to do with our style or play or anything) then would there be this much clamour for a managerial change at this stage?
Still contentedly disappointed over here. 
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The bulk of the fanbase that remembered his decade in charge had complex and conflicting mixed feelings but we were largely willing to give him an opportunity to show that he had learnt from all his experiences since he left us. We gave him the benefit of the doubt.
There were some encouraging signs in 2025. As this season progressed into 2026 his continuing refusal to use his full squad, trust inexperienced players, make timely substitutions, pick teams on form or set up teams to attack against similar level opponents all undermined performance levels. This ultimately culminated in abject results over the last two months.
So for many of us the benefit of the doubt is no longer being given. Moyes does not change. He is a manager who raises our floor but caps our ceiling. The question that now needs to be answered is how much risk is the ownership prepared to embrace. My guess is that it is not much. Moyes likely will be back but this time without much fan goodwill to create a grace period if we start slowly. Previous Message
So after yesterdays result, seeing the comments below, looking over social media and listening to the Blue Room podcast I get the feeling we are close to a tipping point.
I'm torn myself. If Iraola or Glasner agreed to join us I would be all for replacing but what if they didnt want to come? And why would they anyway?
Thats why I'm not calling for Moyes to be sacked but at the same time I do want to see change in emphasis and a swift replacement of the Dyche era players that Moyes has continued to play without question.
The sight of Dwight McNeil coming on with ten minutes to go when Alcaraz or Dibling would have been better options seemed like Moyes was almost trolling the fans and has been mentioned online was the final straw for some.
It seems from Kinnears message that Moyes will be staying on but if we dont give him a new contract what is the point, we will be buying this summer mainly for the next manager and even if we do give him a new contract I think there would be uproar.
What do others tink?
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