I don’t know what our ceiling is with him in charge, this time. The top six or seven seems more volatile than it was 10-15 years ago. Possible that he could build a consistent top eight team that has the occasional spike into the top five or six.
That said, that only has any chance of happening if he has most of the say over transfers. There was no point in the spending on Dibling, Aznou and Alcaraz given his reluctance to use them. And, while his record in the market with us was mostly excellent, first time around, it’s been a bit more up and down since. I do take the point re the amounts spent at West Ham and what they’re left with vs the buy young / develop / sell high model that many argue for.
That’s what I keep coming back to. If his approach to the market doesn’t fit our strategy then he doesn’t fit the position. And, if it does, then he has to be willing to use the players we sign.
I think we owe him an incredible amount. He brought us back from the brink (twice), had the vision for Finch Farm, and created the foundations (first time around) from which we’ve been able to build what we have. He clearly loves and gets the club. But it’s also hard to disagree with the criticisms - and he doesn’t show any signs of changing his spots at this point.
I do think we should be at least talking to Glasner and Iraola. The club then needs to weigh up the options and make a choice that it sticks to. Staying with Moyes and allowing him to recruit experience, only to abandon that in 12 months, would be really foolish. We’re truly at a crossroads imo.
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The bulk of the fanbase that remembered his decade in charge had complex and conflicting mixed feelings but we were largely willing to give him an opportunity to show that he had learnt from all his experiences since he left us. We gave him the benefit of the doubt.
There were some encouraging signs in 2025. As this season progressed into 2026 his continuing refusal to use his full squad, trust inexperienced players, make timely substitutions, pick teams on form or set up teams to attack against similar level opponents all undermined performance levels. This ultimately culminated in abject results over the last two months.
So for many of us the benefit of the doubt is no longer being given. Moyes does not change. He is a manager who raises our floor but caps our ceiling. The question that now needs to be answered is how much risk is the ownership prepared to embrace. My guess is that it is not much. Moyes likely will be back but this time without much fan goodwill to create a grace period if we start slowly. Previous Message
So after yesterdays result, seeing the comments below, looking over social media and listening to the Blue Room podcast I get the feeling we are close to a tipping point.
I'm torn myself. If Iraola or Glasner agreed to join us I would be all for replacing but what if they didnt want to come? And why would they anyway?
Thats why I'm not calling for Moyes to be sacked but at the same time I do want to see change in emphasis and a swift replacement of the Dyche era players that Moyes has continued to play without question.
The sight of Dwight McNeil coming on with ten minutes to go when Alcaraz or Dibling would have been better options seemed like Moyes was almost trolling the fans and has been mentioned online was the final straw for some.
It seems from Kinnears message that Moyes will be staying on but if we dont give him a new contract what is the point, we will be buying this summer mainly for the next manager and even if we do give him a new contract I think there would be uproar.
What do others tink?
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