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on May 13, 2026, 1:02 pm, in reply to "Jez or Ste - what's the guidance on the hand being in a natural position?"
Natural position is not, swinging your arms around the torso of an opponent in order to impede the opponents movement.
Therefore, its a deliberate action to move his hand, which has then hit the ball.
For me, that gives me the following criteria:
- He deliberately moved his hand
- He clearly contacted the ball with his hand
- The ball completely deviated from its position as a result of being hit by the hand
- The defender gained a clear advantage by handling the ball
therefore, penalty.
How a professional referee on VAR decided it wasn't a penalty is beyond hilarious.
I'd also question how the assistant handled it. I haven't yet watched the full audio so this might be answered in that conversation but they would have been looking straight at it from their position, so I'd be interested to hear their input. Or did they just say nothing and let the VAR/Ref get on with it.
Ste
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I thought that Fernandes clearly didn't intend to handle it and you could easily argue that his hand was in a natural position for the movement he was making - moving towards the man trying to shield him away from goal.
But the - albeit accidental - effect of his handball significantly affected the play. The ball went out of play denying Barry/Everton the opportunity to maximise a reasonably promising position (in possession in the penalty area https://x.com/irishefc1878/status/2054353849490501780?s=46
Watching this back absolutely infuriates me. It reinforces my view that these people aren’t corrupt - they’re just entirely incompetent.
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