on March 6, 2026, 11:54 am, in reply to "Re: It didn't end well, but we owe him a lot. Most managers would have seen us down."
However, you can't look at the other scenario as being one of it only being because the rest were so bad that we stayed up. That was the state of the league that season - we were shite, but others were worse - much in the way that Leicester took full advantage of a very low quality league in the year that they took the title. It was still a great achievement, despite the fact that all of the 'top' clubs seemed to never get out of 2nd gear all season.
We did what was needed in two consecutive seasons under Dyche, and stayed up as a result. You can only ever deal with the situation that you find yourself in. 
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To be fair, we scraped over the line once and then were saved by teams being rubbish below us. In his second season we finished 14 points clear after having 8 points deducted.
The amazing thing about last season was we stopped trying to play football just as Branthwaite, probably the most important player to us playing that way, came back from injury. Another victim of playing a high line with the partnership of Tarkowski and Keane. Previous Message
Exactly this. He did what was needed and somehow we scraped over the line twice, which was an incredible feat when you look at the circumstances.
Arguably, he tried to kick on with us as a more 'progressive' team in his last / Moyes' first season, but we started haemorrhaging goals, and it was clear that his time was up.
But, he deserves great gratitude from Evertonians for getting us through. Previous Message
Yeah, maybe we didn't push on, yeah, maybe he doesn't have that ability,but in a back to the wall scrap there's a VERY short list of managers I'd take ahead of him. Previous MessagePrevious Message
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