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on October 30, 2025, 3:59 pm, in reply to "I kinda understand this but at the same time I hate it."
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We already have plenty of examples what happens when people vote for these alternatives. Trump, Brexit etc. Did those really improve their voters life?
I think what this requires is another large scale war in Europe with couple dozen million dead so people will remember for couple of generations that voting for the extremists is really a fucking bad idea.
And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. If France, Germany and UK turn to far right their support for Ukraine will vane. This will allow Putin to gain enough to declare himself a winner. After that it's just a matter of time before he starts the next war. Baltics, perhaps? He see those states as part of Russia, and they would be easy prey if Putin can be sure NATO won't interfere. Which might be the case.
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The support for Reform is coming from people disillusioned with both Labour & Conservatives, who see no way out of the shambles we are currently in & (in some cases) lifelong supporters of each have told me they’ll vote Reform next time.
I’m sure some of it is a protest vote against just how shit Politicians are with their weekly scandals & seeming lack of grasp of the issues, I’m sure some of it is racist, I’m sure some of it isn’t.
All the public see are liars, idiots & incompetents & I think it’s a massive 🤷🏼♂️ from lots of people fed up with the shitshow of whichever party is fucking it up this time.
To be fair, Labour have managed an excellent “hold my beer” response to the poor strategy of the Tory time in office.
My personal response to all of this for some time has been not to vote for any of these idiots as it only encourages them. That will continue. Yes, I have thought about it
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... and those who still think it was right.
brexit support is dwindling - down to about a third, which is roughly where support for reform has peaked.
as such they may have found their limits in terms of who'll vote for them, and their actual behaviour in-post is going to put some people off as well.
losing just a little more faith every day, and credibility too apparently![]()
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