Genocide is a policy. You can't pin it on the soldiers alone. The ones who need dragging to Hague are the policy-makers.
And when this policy is aimed at a specific group based on ethnicity, etc. and is wide-spread enough then I would call it genocide if the aim is to eraditate that group. "Enough" is obviously very much debatable but there have been instances where a few thousand murders clearly are genocide (like the Moriori genocide) so it's more about intent than results.
So what was the Israeli goals in this war? Do you believe it was purely to save those hostages or to just destroy Hamas? Previous Message
for most of us....not for the international bodies, like I said, its for them to decide on if it meets the technical definition.
But it is not beholden upon us all to accept that definition, just like we dont have to accept there is a trans genocide. (again I think trans people are being treated badly and used a political football but genocide?)
For me and the definition in my head, it isnt genocide, but it is an appalling mass killing and starvation of innocent people. And fucking appalling, so it really doesnt matter really does it.
B Previous Message
For instance, Armenian genocide wasn't a genocide then, just like Turkey likes to tell us. Khmer Rouge didn't target a specific group and they didn't systematically try to kill everyone.
More (percentage-wise) of Gazans have died during this genocide than Bosniaks died during the Bosnian War and most consider the acts of the Serbs as genocidal. Previous Message
and for many it means to want to exterminate an enitre race, religion or ethnic group. Like others have said, they could have poisened the water, they could have killed every palestian they had in prison, they could have carpet bombed the place (more than they did). So by my simplistic definition, its not genocide. Bit there is a technical definition, and thats not the one most of us think of. By the technical definition it looks to meet those criteria. But just because some body makes a technical definition we dont all have to jump to it.
This doesnt help https://www.gendergp.com/when-a-genocide-warning-comes-we-must-listen/
Previous Message
Because if Gaza isn't then many of the events in history considered genocides aren't. Actually it's hard to think of any except the one obvious one in that case.
Plus it has been declared a genocide by IAGS (International Association of Genocide Scholars). Previous Message
…..it’s certainly a litany of war crimes.
A statistician I respect greatly on X downloaded the deaths data released by Hamas and analysed it. The majority of the excess was in younger males. The numbers are bad obviously and the IDF clearly don’t care too much about collateral but there does seem to be some element of targeting.
My view is they all need to learn to fucking share. Religion is the common denominator for both extremes. Previous Message
The boards #1 pseudo-intellectual stroking his beard coming out with edgy takes.
Your tedious habit of posting with varying degress of ambiguity doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look a cunt.
That's probably accurate TBF.
I would ask you why you don't think it's a genocide, but I really cannot be arsed. You're like that pony tailed dickhead from Good Will Hunting. Not a single original thought in your head, just content to regurgitate shite you've found on some obscure SubReddit drinking Fanta in your piss stained undies.
Responses