on June 13, 2025, 11:33 am, in reply to "If it were as simple as "Goals for = Points won", everyone would just buy strikers. nt."
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Benitez, Lampard and Dyche all improved results initially. Extrapolating a small sample size into a straight line projection is not going to work.
In Benitez first 10 games we scored 18 league goals! We know how that ended up.
I know we have to see what we bring in. I’m just saying if Moyes can somehow add 20 goals on top of what we usually score to get up Top 10 then I’ll be christening him a football genius.
Appreciate some teams may fall away which may help us. Previous Message
We had 15 goals when Moyes took over so scored 27 in 19 matches since. Which works out at about 1.5 per match. And that with Harrison as the primary RW. Previous Message
There seems there’s an expectation that the Summer will bring in a whole new revamped team that will be filled with of goals and creativity and rocket us into the top half of the league.
I think it’s nigh on impossible to make such a big leap. It’s not the league position of 13th we should concentrate on, it’s the number of goals we score.
We were the 4th lowest scorers last season with only the 3 relegated teams scoring less than us. In 23/24 we were the 2nd lowest scorers and also 2nd lowest in 22/23.
Look at the league table attached here and the correlation of goals scored vs points won. In most cases it’s 1 for 1 i.e. 1 goal scored is 1 point earned.
Over the last 3 seasons, you need to score approximately 60 goals to secure a Top 10 finish.
We’ve averaged 38 goals over the last 3 seasons.
So if you believe we can “challenge for Top 10” what in effect you’re saying is we can go from a team that’s more or less averages 1 goal a game to one that average 1.5 goals a game and approx add 20 goals on top of what we usually score.
Think about that for a minute.
We’re potentially expecting a whole raft of new players to come in and gel together quickly in a new stadium and outperform all previous seasons since 16/17 when we scored 62 goals and Lukaku got 25 of them.
I say it’s nigh on impossible to make such a big leap in a year of transition.
I’d gladly take 13th again whilst hoping to improve our goal output to be more in line with points earned. We’ve got a huge amount of points for our goals scored these last 2 seasons.
What about you? Are you really expecting an avalanche of goals and a Top 10 finish?
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