which is why the Ancelotti recruitment was so thrilling
Looking back -
1977 Gordon Lee (had got Newcastle to a league cup final and sold Malcolm MacDonald. We could have gone after Clough but chose not to. Apparently we did go after Bobby Robson who had done a good job with Ipswich but not won anything at that point)
1981 - HK. Obviously legend, but still a bit of a gamble as only been in Div 2 and Div 3 with Blackburn, albeit doing well. At the time the Mancs were choosing between McMenemy and Atkinson who had more of a track record. If this board had been around then I bet a few would have questioned us not going after them
1994 - Walker. Hadn't won anything, was on the back of a big European result against Bayern
1994 - Royle. League Cup final, Cup semi final ,had just got relegated with Oldham. I loved him, but it isn't THAT different to Martinez record at Wigan.
1997 - We offered Andy Gray the job, who had no management or coaching credentials whatsoever
1998 - Smith. Had won lots albeit all in Scotland which devalues it somewhat.
2002 - Moyes. Won the second (third as was) division and lost in the playoffs. No PL experience, no Cups.
And when Martinez was appointed the alternatives were Ralph Rangnick and the Porto fella who were hardly top bracket. We even interviewed Phil Neville ffs.
Point being prior to Moshiri we haven't historically been the kind of club to go after the big name managers who have won big things, even when we had cash.
An F A Cup win, so what? The Everton job appeared to be
a reward for relegation. I always thought he was a dreamer. I read somewhere that he had been “genuinely shocked” when Wigan were relegated and that confirmed it in my mind: the man was mad. Their relegation was nailed on - they were woeful that season, in the bottom three from Christmas on.
...he did talk silly at times when the evidence in front of him was showing something completely different.
But I loved how he tried to get us to play, and in that first season it worked really well. Best football since the 80s, and yes including Moyes’ last season. I remember what a revelation it was to see us having been coached to play out from the back and it really felt we could advance a level.
He just didn’t seem able to adjust and become a bit more pragmatic when it was needed and as a result once he lost the fans and the players it was game over and a long and painful one at that. That and some dodgy signings.
But when you think of some of the managers we’ve had, Sam Allardyce, Walter Smith (and his how many defenders?), Mike Walker, Ronald Koeman......Martinez was certainly better than any of those IMO.
On about protocol with the PL situation and project with Belgium and the team dynamics within it. The bloke is absolutely full of BS I’m so glad we dumped him all be it with a £10m payoff and his tippy tappy football and we eventually ended up with a proper manager Martinez is n absolute fraud!and the players found him out also