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What she actually said was that they should follow the lead of the Spanish Socialists
in dealing with Scottish Independence.
Which is quite different from the approach of the right wing Spanish government at the time of the 2017 Catalonia referendum.
Long-Bailey also has a legal background, albeit not at the level of either Starmer or Thornberry. She wouldn’t be my personal choice - as soon as they all committed to allowing the Board of Deputies dictate how their party should be run I lost respect for any of them. But I couldn’t vote for any of the others going by their records and Long-Bailey is the only one so far to support open selection. If I’m honest, Nandy would probably have the best chance of winning an election if it occurred in the next few weeks. Whether that would be true in a few years is hard to say. However, I couldn’t and wouldn’t vote for her. As a recent example, she stated in an interview that the Scottish independence issue should be dealt with like Spain dealt with Catalonia. That would be brutal police action and arrests / jail sentences for the leaders. No thanks.
Won't do this as a poll but would be interested to get views on what people think of the 4 remaining candidates.
Whatever your politics (I know this place is often regarded as left-leaning, but I think there is a wider range than sometimes perceived) what do you think of them and who (if any) do you think stands the best chance of improving Labour's electoral chances?
My thoughts for what they're worth -
Starmer - for some, the obvious choice with his successful career outside of politics. Has the intellect and the gravitas, he probably looks the most "Prime Ministerial" if that's still a thing. Downsides though - easily cast as a metropolitan Remain type. Maybe lacking a bit of the sparkle and charisma that people expect in a leader, can come across a bit stiff and formal at times.
Nandy - see she has just got onto the final ballot today, ahead of Long-Bailey which is somewhat surprising. Seems to be doing well though, beginning to develop something of a calm and assertive style under questioning. Northern MP who stuck to her guns in terms of respecting the Leave vote. She is relatively unknown and way back in the polling but could easily start to build some momentum (no pun intended). Again, she maybe hasn't got the big, bold personality some may want, can't see her making any grandiose, tub-thumping speeches to packed audiences but given the chance, she might just turn out to be a sober, competent and inclusive figure who people warm to over time. Not too close to any particular faction in the party (though the die-hard Corbynites won't be backing her!).
Long-Bailey - I just don't see what qualifies her to be leader of one of the largest political parties in Europe. She's intelligent and seems a decent person but I haven't seen anything that makes me think she could overcome the huge challenges ahead, not least that large sections of the party (not to mention the media) will take against her from the start due to the Momentum/Corbyn association. Just seems too lightweight to be able to bridge the huge divide. She will get a high percentage of the vote though, I am pretty sure of that due to her position on the political spectrum within the party so has to be viewed as a serious contender.
Thornberry - possibly the biggest personality of the four. She'd be up for the fight and has a good legal mind like Starmer but rightly or wrongly, there's this perception that she is disdainful towards the working class in general and Leave voters in particular. Just feel she'd be too abrasive and, as leader, would maybe lack the broad appeal the party needs.
That's my two cents. I've been leaning towards Starmer myself but Nandy has impressed me so far. Still quite a way to go so I'll see what they all have to say for themselves before deciding. Even if you have no time for Labour and none of the above would induce you to give them your vote, it would be good to get your take on it.