but you do have to factor in what the wider electorate think. The opposite of navel gazing, really. At the same time, you have to uphold certain principles and standards. Staying true to your core values whilst being open to compromise and work with others wherever possible is a tricky balancing act.
I agree with your comments about Johnson. He is motivated purely by self-interest and has no integrity or moral compass. He has been allowed to evade scrutiny to a ridiculous degree up to this point but this surely cannot go on forever and Labour need to be ready when the cracks start to appear, not fighting itself.
Now Phillips is out of the running, the other candidates bar RLB seem to be of a general political stance ("soft left") the majority of party members should be able to accept. Will see what they put forward over the next few weeks, though I doubt there will be loads of detail.
RLB may be seen as the most ideologically pure by Momentum etc, and I suspect I'd probably broadly agree with much of her policy agenda but just don't see her as having the personality to garner enough support for it across the party, let alone the country. Open to having my mind changed but that's how I see it right now. Got my local CLP meeting tonight, will see what the consensus is - expecting quite a lot of support for her.
Immediately Labour are caught navel gazing talking about electability
England & Wales meanwhile can elect a bull-shitting liar.
Not only a Bull-Shitting liar but a coward, a fraud and a philandering lazy arsed bully.
There's also an element of fraudster (Garden Bridge/Acuri.. grants for sex) & numerous cases ineptitude.
He's also an alleged security lability (Russia security report/bunga parties in Italy with known Russian spies).
All of this is a tip of an iceberg.
Imagine if any one of the Labour candidates had that résumé as a starting point.
Oh the scandal.
Won't do this as a poll but would be interested to get views on what people think of the 4 remaining candidates.
Whatever your politics (I know this place is often regarded as left-leaning, but I think there is a wider range than sometimes perceived) what do you think of them and who (if any) do you think stands the best chance of improving Labour's electoral chances?
My thoughts for what they're worth -
Starmer - for some, the obvious choice with his successful career outside of politics. Has the intellect and the gravitas, he probably looks the most "Prime Ministerial" if that's still a thing. Downsides though - easily cast as a metropolitan Remain type. Maybe lacking a bit of the sparkle and charisma that people expect in a leader, can come across a bit stiff and formal at times.
Nandy - see she has just got onto the final ballot today, ahead of Long-Bailey which is somewhat surprising. Seems to be doing well though, beginning to develop something of a calm and assertive style under questioning. Northern MP who stuck to her guns in terms of respecting the Leave vote. She is relatively unknown and way back in the polling but could easily start to build some momentum (no pun intended). Again, she maybe hasn't got the big, bold personality some may want, can't see her making any grandiose, tub-thumping speeches to packed audiences but given the chance, she might just turn out to be a sober, competent and inclusive figure who people warm to over time. Not too close to any particular faction in the party (though the die-hard Corbynites won't be backing her!).
Long-Bailey - I just don't see what qualifies her to be leader of one of the largest political parties in Europe. She's intelligent and seems a decent person but I haven't seen anything that makes me think she could overcome the huge challenges ahead, not least that large sections of the party (not to mention the media) will take against her from the start due to the Momentum/Corbyn association. Just seems too lightweight to be able to bridge the huge divide. She will get a high percentage of the vote though, I am pretty sure of that due to her position on the political spectrum within the party so has to be viewed as a serious contender.
Thornberry - possibly the biggest personality of the four. She'd be up for the fight and has a good legal mind like Starmer but rightly or wrongly, there's this perception that she is disdainful towards the working class in general and Leave voters in particular. Just feel she'd be too abrasive and, as leader, would maybe lack the broad appeal the party needs.
That's my two cents. I've been leaning towards Starmer myself but Nandy has impressed me so far. Still quite a way to go so I'll see what they all have to say for themselves before deciding. Even if you have no time for Labour and none of the above would induce you to give them your vote, it would be good to get your take on it.