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Tiki thinks protesting against the Vietnam war is the same as

Posted by AceFrehley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=AceFrehley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 13:00:54

Calling for the destruction of Israel.

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Can someone explain how Hamas/Palestine is any different from Nazi/Germany?

Posted by bigbop85 <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=bigbop85' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 26, 2024, 8:24:51, in reply to "Tiki thinks protesting against the Vietnam war is the same as"

The Nazi's were a political party that came into power via elections and then eventually represented all of Germany.

Hamas came into power via election and now represents Palestine, with no uprising or citizen protests against their rule.

What am I missing here?

No death camps*

Posted by JeffFrank <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=JeffFrank' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 26, 2024, 12:20:56, in reply to "Can someone explain how Hamas/Palestine is any different from Nazi/Germany?"
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there are no war crimes being committed there Jeff.

Posted by AceFrehley <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=AceFrehley' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 26, 2024, 12:24:35, in reply to "No death camps*"

you can't name one.

The left is far more powerful now. And they hate Jews*

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You know what the difference is?

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 26, 2024, 9:10:33, in reply to "Can someone explain how Hamas/Palestine is any different from Nazi/Germany?"
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Large swathes of Germany did not fully support the Nazi party, especially as the years went by. And a lot of Germans didn't support it at all.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

And Jeff, no one cares about the Palestinians. Including Muslim nations.

They are hated everywhere they go because they always try to overthrow the government.

So you view them as subhuman with no rights*

Posted by JeffFrank <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=JeffFrank' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 26, 2024, 12:21:17, in reply to "And Jeff, no one cares about the Palestinians. Including Muslim nations."
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They are hated everywhere they go because they always try to overthrow the government.

Illiniphil is a mindless robot

they have rights. And they started a war. now they are losing the war.

but for some reason you're on their side.

i'm sure that is all Tiki said. "I feel bad for those poor children"

i'm sure that's ALL he had to say.

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LOL. Who the eff does he think he is fooling with something like that?

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 17:41:51, in reply to "i'm sure that is all Tiki said. "I feel bad for those poor children""

Besides the other anti-Semitic yoyos?

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

I will say it again. If Tiki catches a bullet, I won’t give a fuck. *

Posted by IlliniHimey <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=IlliniHimey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 17:29:04, in reply to "Tiki thinks protesting against the Vietnam war is the same as"

ADAM Ant..........up and ADAM!!!!!!

I have yet to see one of these protesters admit that Israel has a right to exist.

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 15:12:04, in reply to "Tiki thinks protesting against the Vietnam war is the same as"

The Palestinians also have a right to exist, but I don't see anyone denying that.

If you have a group of people that refuse to admit you have a right to exist, and then as a whole, support a terrorist group that will actively pursue their view of Israel not having a right to exist by murdering and raping Israelites, why would Israel stop? If Israel stops without an acknowledgment that they have a right to exist Palestinians/Hamas simply reload and attack again.

Why would Israel stop?

I'm not condoning their actions in killing children, but they are at war. And until Palestinians are willing to acknowledge the terms of the ceasefire, I just don't see why Israel would stop until there is no more threat.

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Calling for the destruction of Israel.

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“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

They hate Jews. And they talk about a two state solution.

The Palestinians will never accept any deal as long as Israel exists. They are a vile and disgusting warmongering people. Just ask the Jordanians.

But that is what I don't understand. How can these protesters expect peace

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 15:43:01, in reply to "They hate Jews. And they talk about a two state solution. "

If the Palestinians aren't willing to accept peace?

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The Palestinians will never accept any deal as long as Israel exists. They are a vile and disgusting warmongering people. Just ask the Jordanians.

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Easy. It will be peaceful when the Israelis "go back to Europe" where they're from*

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If the Palestinians aren't willing to accept peace?

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The Palestinians will never accept any deal as long as Israel exists. They are a vile and disgusting warmongering people. Just ask the Jordanians.

Or just cease to exist altogether.*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 15:55:11, in reply to "Easy. It will be peaceful when the Israelis "go back to Europe" where they're from* "
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If the Palestinians aren't willing to accept peace?

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The Palestinians will never accept any deal as long as Israel exists. They are a vile and disgusting warmongering people. Just ask the Jordanians.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

Right, and since neither one of those is going to happen, lets explore reality and what it may hold

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 16:14:57, in reply to "Or just cease to exist altogether.*"

1) The BEST solution is for Palestinians to agree that Israel has a right to exist, and then find acceptable terms for a two state solution
2) Palestinians continue to say Israel has no right to exist, but Israel stops attacking. It will be just a matter of time before a similar attack sparks another war.
3) Palestinians continue to say that Israel has no right to exist and Israel continues its war on Hamas with the resulting collateral damage.

I don't understand how anyone could want or protest for 2 and 3. What are the other options?

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If the Palestinians aren't willing to accept peace?

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The Palestinians will never accept any deal as long as Israel exists. They are a vile and disgusting warmongering people. Just ask the Jordanians.

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

Let's start by sending home the hostages. Until the hostages are released

Hamas cannot claim any moral high ground or innocence.

Is there a realistic expectation that any hostages are still alive?*

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 21:47:50, in reply to "Let's start by sending home the hostages. Until the hostages are released "

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Hamas cannot claim any moral high ground or innocence.

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

they just released a proof of life video of my cousin, Hersch

though it looks like it was taken recently, there is no way of knowing when it was actually shot. They could have taken in 10/8 and held on to it and doctored it to look new.

But at least the video gives us hope.

That is great to hear. Then by all means, first priority should be the

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 26, 2024, 11:26:10, in reply to "they just released a proof of life video of my cousin, Hersch"

release of all hostages.

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“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

in my mind, you either return them or the bodies.

until then, there will be no peace.

Good to hear.*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 26, 2024, 10:49:45, in reply to "they just released a proof of life video of my cousin, Hersch"
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The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

Amen!*

Posted by OskeeWowWowDig <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=OskeeWowWowDig' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 17:20:39, in reply to "Let's start by sending home the hostages. Until the hostages are released "

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Hamas cannot claim any moral high ground or innocence.

Along the lines of what I wrote below . . .

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 15:20:30, in reply to "I have yet to see one of these protesters admit that Israel has a right to exist."

(1) Ask these protesters to publicly and unequivocally acknowledge that Israel has a right to exist. Most of them won't because "Israel is occupying Palestine".

(2) Ask these protesters to unequivocally acknowledge that Hamas committed a purposeful and unprovoked massacre of non-combatants on October 7. They won't because see #1 above - the poor "Palestinians" are the long-suffering victims here.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

Keep this in mind. Not one single person out there who is protesting "genocide"

is protesting the genocide going on in Darfur. There is only one "genocide" they are focused on.

I wonder why?

Every person who alleges genocide should be asked to condemn the events of October 7 using . . .

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 14:33:09, in reply to "Keep this in mind. Not one single person out there who is protesting "genocide" "
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. . . equally harsh language.

What percentage do you think would do so?

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

well, from their perspective they think that 10/7 was an uprising

the rules for oppressed people is different than for the oppressors.

Which only serves to demonstrate just how mentally ill they truly are.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 14:54:17, in reply to "well, from their perspective they think that 10/7 was an uprising"
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If not outright evil.

This is the left in America, folks. Take a good, long look at it.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

it is mental illness but there's more to it

they hate Jews.

Take religion out of it completely. Just looking from a disputed territory standpoint

Posted by Figs <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Figs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 15:17:12, in reply to "it is mental illness but there's more to it"

why would either side stop until the other accepts the terms that they desire? Palestinians want Israel to not exist and refuses to agree to a two state solution. Israel has agreed to a two state solution on multiple occasions and now that they have been attacked on a large scale by the ruling party of Gaza are warring to force that acknowledgement. It seems that Palestinians could stop the death at any time and refuse to do so.

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they hate Jews.

“the intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.” - Peter Medawar

Iran is the problem.

Posted by HimeysPharmacist <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=HimeysPharmacist' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 15:21:16, in reply to "Take religion out of it completely. Just looking from a disputed territory standpoint"

We can talk all we want about Palestinians, but Iran is the fucking problem.

Stoking fires of anger and hate while we allow Iran to generate billions in revenue to fund this shit is a damned joke.

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they hate Jews.

Thanks, Obama!*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 15:22:24, in reply to "Iran is the problem."
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We can talk all we want about Palestinians, but Iran is the fucking problem.

Stoking fires of anger and hate while we allow Iran to generate billions in revenue to fund this shit is a damned joke.

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they hate Jews.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

The left has long turned a blind eye to all the virulent anti-Semites throughout its ranks.*

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 13:04:31, in reply to "Tiki thinks protesting against the Vietnam war is the same as"
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Calling for the destruction of Israel.

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The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

And P.S. - Man, am I hoping for a repeat of the 1968 DNC Chicago convention chaos.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 25, 2024, 13:06:40, in reply to "The left has long turned a blind eye to all the virulent anti-Semites throughout its ranks.*"
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Tear yourselves apart again, Dems!

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

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