on September 10, 2025, 7:42:40, in reply to "California now in talks with Valero to pay them to keep their San Francisco area refinery open"
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So the state does just about everything to make running a refinery not profitable, and now is thinking of paying the operator to stay open 🤔
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-09/california-may-pay-valero-hundreds-of-millions-to-keep-sf-bay-area-refinery-open
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