deuce-ish: This is a huge part of the problem. "Social promotions"... all the rest. JMHO.

Hey, happy first day of school: ding-dong Brandon ringing a bell. Meanwhile, metal detectors sound.. - osklister August 19, 2025, 14:59:48

I don't know what CPS teachers make these days, but I doubt they are overpaid. - OskeeWowWowDig August 19, 2025, 15:02:52
- For public employees, focus on total comp, not wages - Potomac August 20, 2025, 19:04:23
  - Yep yep. Early retirement, bloated pension with COLA. (As noted, too good to last.) * - osklister August 21, 2025, 9:34:29
    - They've been saying that about the retirement system for years and years. - OskeeWowWowDig August 21, 2025, 10:13:13
      - Have you ever worked in the private sector? - kokomojo August 24, 2025, 20:21:39
        
        lol…ok* - OskeeWowWowDig August 24, 2025, 21:16:02
      - As opposed to so many other professions??* - Learning_and_Labor August 23, 2025, 16:00:54
        
        I said, speaking from (my) experience. I'm not experienced in most fields. - OskeeWowWowDig August 24, 2025, 17:28:10
        
        Many other professions give you the opportunity to invest but don’t have near the payout of the - harb99 August 24, 2025, 18:08:47
        
        True. There are many different types of retirement plans. - OskeeWowWowDig August 24, 2025, 18:54:17
- All are free to believe as they please. Here's some further info/opinions. - osklister August 20, 2025, 13:48:54
  - BTW, not that I have done a ton of research but those numbers seem inflated. - OskeeWowWowDig August 20, 2025, 15:19:22
    - The NPV of a robust pension is probably about $3 million on retirement date* - fratstud August 20, 2025, 16:40:34
      - Personally, I'd have to live until I was about 90 for my retirement to reach that value - OskeeWowWowDig August 20, 2025, 18:14:16
  - what a racket, especially when you factor in their pensions. the citizens of illinois - Ari Gold August 20, 2025, 14:25:37
    - I go the other way. Sooner or later, Detroit-style haircuts. JMHO. * - osklister August 20, 2025, 14:57:08
  - Thanks for those stats. Those numbers are much larger than I thought. - OskeeWowWowDig August 20, 2025, 13:56:37
    - It's amazing what happens when parents actually emphasize education* - Figs August 20, 2025, 14:19:20
      - Money helps too. Compare the price per pupil spending difference - OskeeWowWowDig August 20, 2025, 15:00:47
        
        This is all directly copied from AI that comes up for me. So, kinda can't give you a source, but.... - osklister August 20, 2025, 16:37:10
        
        I call BS on CPS spending 30K per student. Honestly, I saw something today that - OskeeWowWowDig August 20, 2025, 18:16:33
        
        A quick search shows anywhere from 19K (USNews&Wrld) to the 30K you saw. - OskeeWowWowDig August 20, 2025, 18:28:44
        
        it's way more than $8K - you should also remember that cps has uncommonly high facilities costs... - auto August 24, 2025, 19:03:48
        
        Oof, those programmers need to make AI stop using that illinoispolicy.org site because - fratstud August 20, 2025, 16:39:26
        
        Love the sarcasm, but to be fair, it is characterized as a right-of-center resource. - OskeeWowWowDig August 20, 2025, 18:17:52
      - This is a huge part of the problem. "Social promotions"... all the rest. JMHO. - osklister August 20, 2025, 14:53:34
      - SFUSD recently tried to make local PTAs contribute to a communal pot... - haighter August 20, 2025, 14:50:14
      - Emphasizing education is white privilege and must be banned* - fratstud August 20, 2025, 14:46:02

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