I remember well the Latics playing under Big Joe not being, lets say confusing in his first few seasons especially when he had to sell players, do you remember? That experience alone taught me patience with managers because they are not all called Brian Clough or Ian Dowie. Therefore I'm quite happy at the moment with Micky Mellon, but that doesn't mean that I like loosing in the way we play under him sometimes(injury's and referees accepted) I call it a learning curve.