I think with us old timers it’s just engrained to dislike Manure because we’ve had a lifetime of being looked down on and patronised by them. Chuck in Yonnas and Biffos ( even from Reds who live in Oldham ) and it’s a delight to see them struggle. I never felt the same about City mainly because like us they were then the struggling Manchester underdogs enjoying the occasional period in the sun. It’s a chuckle for us to see them struggle now. Theres a culture struggle going on methinks with Ratcliffe and the Glazers. I’d take Ratcliffe to win out but suspect it’s going to take some heavy lifting to find another co-investor willing to buy the Glazers out before it gets fixed. All that said I find it hard to hate them and call them scum. Life long dislike is fine by me and I passed it onto one of the kids. The other is a deranged red and Tics fan for which I sincerely apologise to all my fellow posters. I failed you 🙁