on 3/26/2022, 8:59 am
...but as a first step, here is a thread originally called "Sample of a Sample" that began as a look at a portion of Mike's film ratings that focused at first on his top-rated films since 1960. My comments (which follow, and the balance of the thread) moves more into determining the dividing line between noir and neo-noir, which did not achieve anything definitive but is IMO worth preserving for reference.
First, here's Mike's initial post in the thread, followed by the subsequent posts. These are all from early 2019:
I'd have to watch a zillion movies a second time before I could attempt a fine-grained ranking, and even then I could not do it meaningfully.
I had the idea of extracting all the post-1960 noirs (or maybe-noirs) from my 3,000 odd reviews that I gave a score of 8, 9 or 10 at the time. Even this is too daunting a task. I did take a small sample from about 500 films out of the 3,000+. It's biased because the population from which it's drawn is biased. It omits films I watched but did not rate prior to my reviewing years and after my reviewing years.
I'll share it with you anyway for what it's worth. It clearly is not much like what popular lists of neo-noirs contain. A lot of items on those lists are movies I'd rate as 6 or 7 (out of 10). My viewing included lots of foreign films and lots of 60s and 70s films, so they contribute a lot of movies here. Are all of these neo-noir? Who actually knows? I don't.
8 2001 15 Minutes
8 1982 48 Hours
8 2005 A History of Violence
8 1985 After Hours
8 2006 Alone with Her
8 2010 Animal Kingdom
8 1962 Arturo’s Island
8 2012 Barbara
8 1962 Black Test Car aka Kuro no tesuto kâ
8 1986 Blue Velvet
8 2004 Bolero
8 1963 Cairo
8 2013 Cold Comes the Night
8 1997 Conspiracy Theory
8 1996 Crash
8 1988 Damnation
8 1986 Down by Law
8 1996 Eye for an Eye
8 1965 Fists in the Pocket
8 1996 Freeway
8 1978 Goodbye e Amen
8 1986 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
8 2005 I Saw Ben Barka Get Killed
8 2011 InSight
8 1960 Inspector Palmu’s Error
8 1969 Japan Organized Crime Boss
8 2006 Jesse Stone: Death in Paradise
8 2006 Jesse Stone: Night Passage
8 1966 Koinonia, ora miden
8 1961 La mort de Belle
8 1971 Law Breakers aka Les assassins de l'ordre
8 1968 Mafia aka Day of the Owl
8 2003 Mannen som log aka The Man Who Smiles
8 2010 Meskada
8 2011 Miss Bala
8 2003 Monster
8 1974 Newman’s Law
8 1965 Night of Violence
8 1988 On the Run aka Mong ming yuen yeung
8 2008 Terribly Happy aka Frygtelig lykkelig
8 1977 The American Friend
8 1970 The American Soldier
8 1973 The Boss aka Il Boss
8 2005 The Child aka L’enfant
8 2009 The Dark House (Dom Zly)
8 2004 The Edukators
8 1963 The Fire Within
8 1975 The French Detective
8 1974 The Last Desperate Hours
8 1998 The Longest Nite
8 1973 The Police Serve the Citizens? Aka La polizia è al servizio del cittadino?
8 1962 The Terror of Doctor Mabuse
8 1963 The Whip and the Body
8 2000 The Widow of Saint-Pierre
9 1996 2 Days in the Valley
9 2000 American Psycho
9 1962 Assault on the Pay Train
9 1960 Classe tous risques
9 1999 Eyes Wide Shut
9 1961 La Notte
9 2001 Lantana
9 1962 Le septieme jure
9 1960 Lipstick
9 1969 Naked Violence aka I ragazzi del massacro
10 2007 The Man from London
10 1980 The Truth on the Savolta Affair
Re: A Sample of a Sample
Posted by Don Malcolm on 4/23/2019, 2:02 pm, in reply to "A Sample of a Sample"
The dividing line continues to be 1966-67 for noir/neo based on this list. Here's a condensation of the pre-1970 portion:
Rk Year Type IMDB Title
8 1960 NN 8.0 Inspector Palmu’s Error
9 1960 NN 7.5 Classe tous risques
9 1960 NN 6.7 Lipstick
8 1961 NN 7.2 La mort de Belle
9 1961 "Art" 8.0 La Notte
8 1962 ? 6.4 Arturo’s Island
8 1962 NN 7.2 Black Test Car aka Kuro no tesuto kâ
8 1962 NN Hor 5.7 The Terror of Doctor Mabuse
9 1962 NN 7.8 Assault on the Pay Train
9 1962 NN 7.5 Le septieme jure
8 1963 NN 5.5 Cairo
8 1963 NV 8.0 The Fire Within
8 1963 Hor 6.9 The Whip and the Body
8 1965 "Art" 7.9 Fists in the Pocket
8 1965 NN 6.2 Night of Violence
8 1966 NN 6.8 Koinonia, ora miden
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8 1968 -- 7.1 Mafia aka Day of the Owl
8 1969 -- 7.2 Japan Organized Crime Boss
9 1969 -- 6.4 Naked Violence aka I ragazzi del massacro
Not sure the above will display too well, but no time right now to make a diagram and port over like some of the others...
NN means "not neo."
Films here that are close to being in a Top 100 are LA MORT DE BELLE (one of the most astonishing character transmogrifications in all of noir); BLACK TEST CAR (they don't get much nastier than this even in today's corporate world!); LE SEPTIEME JURE (the script is a bit queasy in places, but Blier is absolutely amazing); ASSAULT ON THE PAY TRAIN (which is definitely in my Top 50--just a totally stunning piece of work.
LIPSTICK is also a really well-done film (I note three Damiani films on this list) but not quite a Top 100 contender in my book.
LIPSTICK and ASSAULT ON THE PAY TRAIN were part of our first "Rare Noir is Good to Find" series, which might pick up again next year; LE SEPTIEME JURE played in French 2; LA MORT DE BELLE will play this November in French 6.
Re: A Sample of a Sample
Posted by Solomon on 4/23/2019, 4:47 pm, in reply to "Re: A Sample of a Sample"
That's interesting--maybe I'll pull out another sample even though it's only the ones I rated most highly.
I find 1966-67 very interesting because the 60s were a watershed era in so many other ways. The country was having to absorb Vietnam, protests, plus an activist political agenda reflecting in vast new social programs. This is the time when Hippiedom, new dances, new kinds of black music, peyote, drug experimentation, Bonnie and Clyde, clothes and non-clothes, etc. were all appearing or being intensified. Non-noir movies reflected this. There were psychedelic scenes.
(The Money Game might be a holdout.)
Most of us codgers on this board lived through this. The late 50s were already a time when beatnik talk, bop talk and jazz musician habits were penetrating widely. I hit it first in 1958 when I was recruited into a jazz band by a West Coast pianist who talked the talk.
Things got wild for awhile, and, if your observation holds, it seems to have shown up in the shift from the last gasp of noir to neo-noir. If so, I should be able to verify your thesis in the 1966 and after films. I think we'll see it in the detective movies of Sinatra, Newman, McQueen, also in Madigan.
Re: A Sample of a Sample
Posted by Solomon on 4/24/2019, 5:30 pm, in reply to "Re: A Sample of a Sample"
Here's some more rated 8 or higher. Looking at 1970 and after, I begin to see the makings of a neo-noir 100 that I'd stand by. In extracting this I bypassed quite a few rated 6 and 7, and I had a fair amount of enthusiasm for the 7s.
8 1961 Sekushi chitai aka Sexy Line
8 1961 The Naked Edge
9 1962 Pitfall aka Otoshiana
8 1962 Salvatore Giuliano
8 1962 The Couch
8 1963 Rififi en la Ciudad
8 1963 Rififi in Tokyo
8 1966 The Round-Up
8 1970 The Brotherhood of the Bell (TV movie)
9 1971 See the Man Run (TV movie)
8 1972 The Master Touch
9 1977 Sorcerer (new version of The Wages of Fear)
8 1978 Covert Action (spy story)
8 1978 Violette
9 1980 Un uomo in ginocchio
8 1985 Peril aka Peril en la demeure
9 1985 Runaway Train
8 1985 Stronghold
8 1986 Round Midnight
8 1991 Under Suspicion
8 1996 Pusher
8 1998 I Stand Alone
8 2000 Werckmeister Harmonies
8 2001 Training Day
8 2003 Wonderland
9 2005 Revolver
8 2005 Wallander: Africanen (#1.5) (most episodes are 6 or 7)
8 2006 Wallender: Hemligheten (#1.13)
8 2009 Wallander: Skytten (#2.8)
8 2010 Wallander: Indrivaren (#2.12)
8 2014 True Detective (series)
At this point, Mike abandoned the idea of pinpointing a transition point for neo-noir and using his own grading scale to create a "top" neo-noir list. He also decided to limit the scope of the investigation's next phase to American films, perhaps based on the reasoning that trying to cover the foreign films would wind up being too incomplete to be of much value. That list, which formed the basis for the often-frenetic, digressive effort that followed, is reproduced below, from the last post in this thread:
I've set this method aside and am toying with another approach. This is simple. From established lists of neo-noirs, find their IMDb ratings and rank the films by these ratings. The list becomes a popularity poll. It's biased somewhat toward "big" popular movies, and yet it's quite interesting to take as data. I haven't finished this. I am only through the letter Q on Spicer's list, and his list stops in 2008. When this is completed, it can be used to look at any number of questions and comparisons. It's limited to American movies dating from 1967 and after.
Preliminary result:
2.9 2007 Machine
3.6 2001 L.A.P.D.: To Protect and to Serve
3.9 1991 Out of the Rain
4.0 2007 Living and Dying
4.0 2008 Break
4.0 2009 Hired Gun
4.1 1992 Inside Edge
4.2 1992 Love Crimes
4.2 1994 Sexual Malice aka The Other Man
4.3 1990 Body Chemistry
4.3 1992 Fatal Instiinct
4.3 2006 Basic Instinct 2
4.4 1979 Portrait of a Hitman
4.4 1981 Body and Soul
4.4 1990 Jezebel’s Kiss
4.4 1993 Body of Evidence
4.4 1996 Blondes Have More Guns
4.4 2000 The Stray
4.5 1971 Chandler
4.5 1987 Rent-a-Cop
4.6 1987 Cold Steel
4.6 1989 Night Visitor
4.6 1989 Paint It Black
4.6 1990 Alligator Eyes
4.6 1991 Carnal Crimes
4.6 1992 Sunset Heat
4.6 1997 Cold Around the Heart
4.6 1997 Executive Target
4.6 1998 Psycho
4.7 1980 Double Negative
4.7 1989 Mortal Passions
4.7 1991 Femme Fatale
4.7 1991 Where Sleeping Dogs Lie
4.8 1990 The Rain Killer
4.8 1994 Dead Connection
4.8 2008 The Spirit
4.9 1995 Man with a Gun
4.9 1998 New Rose Hotel
5.0 1990 Genuine Risk
5.0 1992 Night Rhythms
5.0 1995 Bodily Harm
5.0 1995 Mirage
5.1 1990 Everybody Wins
5.1 1992 Nails
5.1 1996 Gang in Blue
5.1 2000 Get Carter
5.2 1989 Prime Suspect
5.2 1993 The Temp
5.2 1995 Jade
5.2 1999 Gloria
5.3 1972 Cool Breeze
5.3 1987 Slam Dance
5.3 1988 Call Me
5.3 1989 Cat Chaser
5.3 1999 Forever Mine
5.4 1975 The Black Bird
5.4 1986 Out of Bounds
5.4 1987 Fatal Beauty
5.4 1988 Out of the Dark
5.4 1990 Blue Desert
5.4 1990 Desperate Hours
5.4 1991 Diary of a Hitman
5.4 1992 Detour
5.4 1992 Illicit Behavior
5.4 1992 Poison Ivy
5.4 1995 I Like to Play Games
5.4 1996 Diabolique
5.4 1997 The Blackout
5.4 2001 Double Take
5.4 2008 Max Payne
5.5 1968 Panic in the City
5.5 1978 The One Man Jury
5.5 1987 The Killing Time
5.5 1996 Hit Me
5.5 2002 No Good Deed
5.6 1974 99 and 44/100% Dead
5.6 1977 Choirboys
5.6 1984 Fear City
5.6 1984 Mike’s Murder
5.6 1991 Past Midnight
5.6 1991 The Dark Wind
5.6 1992 Guncrazy
5.6 1993 Guilty as Sin
5.6 2006 The Black Dahlia
5.6 2007 The Hitcher
5.7 1972 Hit Man
5.7 1974 Black Eye
5.7 1977 The Domino Principle
5.7 1985 The Holcroft Covenant
5.7 1986 8 Million Ways to Die
5.7 1986 No Mercy
5.7 1986 Power
5.7 1986 Wisdom
5.7 1987 Malone
5.7 1988 Criminal Law
5.7 1989 Hit List
5.7 1990 Blue Steel
5.7 1990 Bright Angel
5.7 1990 Impulse
5.7 1990 The Fourth War
5.7 1991 A Kiss Before Dying
5.7 1991 Kiss Me a Killer
5.7 1991 Moral Thoughts
5.7 1992 A Stranger Among Us
5.7 1992 Equinox
5.7 1993 Dangerous Game
5.7 1994 The Getaway
5.7 2000 Reindeer Games
5.8 1968 If He Hollers, Let Him Go!
5.8 1975 ‘Sheba, Baby’
5.8 1980 The First Deadly Sin
5.8 1983 Breathless
5.8 1987 The Rosary Murders
5.8 1990 Another 48 Hours
5.8 1991 Intimate Stranger
5.8 1992 Final Analysis
5.8 1992 Night and the City
5.8 1998 The Gingerbread Man
5.8 2001 ‘R Xmas
5.8 2002 Liberty Stands Still
5.9 1969 Hard Contract
5.9 1975 The ‘Human’ factor
5.9 1978 The Big Sleep
5.9 1982 I, the Jury
5.9 1984 Against All Odds
5.9 1987 P.I. Private Investigations
5.9 1990 The Rookie
5.9 1991 A Rage in Harlem
5.9 1993 Body Snatchers
5.9 1995 Kiss of Death
5.9 2007 The Walker
5.9 2009 Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
6.0 1971 Going Home
6.0 1971 The Organization
6.0 1975 Friday Foster
6.0 1981 Eyewitness
6.0 1985 Target
6.0 1986 Murphy’s Law
6.0 1986 The Morning After
6.0 1987 Lady Beware
6.0 1988 Masquerade
6.0 1989 Relentless
6.0 1991 Liebestraum
6.0 1992 Raising Cain
6.0 1993 Point of No Return
6.0 1996 Blood and Wine
6.0 1998 Ambushed
6.0 1998 Palmetto
6.0 2001 Original Sin
6.0 2005 Ripley Under Ground
6.0 2006 Miami Vice
6.0 2008 Righteous Kill
6.1 1972 The Groundstar Conspiracy
6.1 1975 Hustle
6.1 1976 The Killer Inside Me
6.1 1978 Eyes of Laura Mars
6.1 1979 Last Embrace
6.1 1982 Still of the Night
6.1 1987 Someone to Watch Over Me
6.1 1988 D.O.A.
6.1 1989 Dead Bang
6.1 1989 Johnny Handsome
6.1 1989 The Kill-Off
6.1 1991 Ricochet
6.1 1994 Disclosure
6.1 1998 Poodle Springs
6.1 2002 City by the Sea
6.1 2010 The Killer Inside Me
6.2 1968 A Dandy in Aspic
6.2 1976 Special Delivery
6.2 1986 Positive I.D.
6.2 1989 Gleaming the Cube
6.2 1990 Bad Influence
6.2 1990 Revenge
6.2 1991 Deceived
6.2 1991 Delusion
6.2 1992 The Bodyguard
6.2 1993 Flesh and Bone
6.2 1994 China Moon
6.2 1996 City Hall
6.2 1996 Eye for an Eye
6.2 1996 Mulholland Falls
6.2 1997 City of Industry
6.2 1997 Nighwatch
6.2 1999 Best Laid Plans
6.2 2007 Hannibal Rising
6.3 1980 American Gigolo
6.3 1981 Sharky’s Machine
6.3 1984 Tightrope
6.3 1987 A Prayer for the Dying
6.3 1987 Black Widow
6.3 1987 Dead of Winter
6.3 1988 Betrayed
6.3 1988 The Dead Pool
6.3 1989 Kill Me Again
6.3 1997 Hoodlum
6.3 2001 Along Came a Spider
6.3 2001 Don’t Say a Word
6.4 1969 Marlowe
6.4 1970 The Kremlin Letter
6.4 1971 The Anderson Tapes
6.4 1973 Detroit 9000
6.4 1975 Framed
6.4 1977 The Gauntlet
6.4 1978 The Big Fix
6.4 1978 The Fury
6.4 1980 Cruising
6.4 1980 Night of the Juggler
6.4 1982 The Border
6.4 1986 52 Pick-Up
6.4 1986 Dangerously Close
6.4 1987 The Bedroom Window
6.4 1988 Cop
6.4 1990 Miami Blues
6.4 1990 Pacific Heights
6.4 1990 The Hot Spot
6.4 1995 The Addiction
6.4 1996 Last Man Standing
6.4 1999 Brokedown Palace
6.4 1999 Double Jeopardy
6.4 2002 Blood Work
6.4 2002 Tattoo
6.4 2009 The Taking of Pelham 123
6.5 1968 The Detective
6.5 1970 Cotton Comes to Harlem
6.5 1972 Hickey & Boggs
6.5 1974 Foxy Brown
6.5 1975 The Drowning Pool
6.5 1978 The Brink’s Job
6.5 1982 Hammett
6.5 1985 Jagged Edge
6.5 1987 Best Seller
6.5 1990 Internal Affairs
6.5 1990 Q & A
6.5 1992 The Public Eye
6.5 1993 Killing Zoe
6.5 1994 The Glass Shield
6.5 1998 A Perfect Murder
6.5 1999 8MM
6.5 2001 Heist
6.5 2003 Out of Time
6.5 2006 Hollywoodland
6.5 2009 The International
6.6 1968 Madigan
6.6 1981 The Postman Always Rings Twice
6.6 1983 Sudden Impact
6.6 1986 The Big Easy
6.6 1987 Stakeout
6.6 1989 Black Rain
6.6 1990 After Dark, My Sweet
6.6 1990 Narrow margin
6.6 1991 New Jack City
6.6 1992 The Hand That Rocks the Cradle
6.6 1993 Beyond the Law
6.6 1993 Romeo Is Bleeding
6.6 1995 Copycat
6.6 1996 Bullet
6.6 1996 Night Falls on Manhattan
6.6 1996 The Funeral
6.6 1997 Kiss the Girls
6.6 1998 Clay Pigeons
6.6 2001 Joy Ride
6.6 2001 Outlaw
6.6 2001 The Deep End
6.6 2002 Dark Blue
6.6 2002 The Good Thief
6.6 2004 The Manchurian Candidate
6.7 1970 I Walk the Line
6.7 1973 Executive Action
6.7 1974 The Nickel Ride
6.7 1991 Rush
6.7 1992 Lethal Weapon iii
6.7 1993 Kalifornia
6.7 1995 Devil in a Blue Dress
6.7 1996 Ransom
6.7 1997 Absolute Power
6.7 1999 The Bone Collector
6.7 1999 The Ninth Gate
6.7 2000 The Gift
6.7 2003 Confidence
6.7 2003 The Matrix Revolutions
6.7 2006 The Good Shepherd
6.8 1971 The Grissom Gang
6.8 1975 French Connection II
6.8 1976 Obsession
6.8 1976 The Enforcer
6.8 1977 Black Sunday
6.8 1977 Capricorn One
6.8 1978 Who’ll Stop the Rain
6.8 1979 The Champ
6.8 1981 Ms. 45
6.8 1982 Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid
6.8 1984 Body Double
6.8 1985 Prizzi’s Honor
6.8 1999 Bringing Out the Dead
6.8 2001 From Hell
6.8 2001 Hannibal
6.8 2001 The Pledge
6.8 2002 Cypher
6.9 1973 Coffy
6.9 1978 Fingers
6.9 1979 The Onion Field
6.9 1981 Cutter’s Way
6.9 1982 48 Hours
6.9 1987 Fatal Attraction
6.9 1988 Frantic
6.9 1990 Presumed Innocent
6.9 1992 Basic Instinct
6.9 1992 Deep Cover
6.9 1992 Light Sleeper
6.9 1995 Clockers
6.9 1995 Dead Presidents
6.9 1996 Freeway
6.9 1997 Breakdown
6.9 1997 Cop Land
6.9 2005 Harsh Times
7.0 1971 Play Misty for Me
7.0 1972 Across 110th Street
7.0 1974 Death Wish
7.0 1977 Rolling Thunder
7.0 1977 The Late Show
7.0 1979 Hardcore
7.0 1986 At Close Range
7.0 1987 Near Dark
7.0 1988 Miracle Mile
7.0 1990 King of New York
7.0 1990 The Grifters
7.0 1991 Dead Again
7.0 1991 The Last Boy Scout
7.0 1993 Red Rock West
7.0 1997 Affliction
7.0 1998 Fallen
7.0 2003 The Cooler
7.0 2005 Constantine
7.0 2009 Public Enemies
7.1 1973 The Outfit
7.1 1975 Night Moves
7.1 1980 Dressed to Kill
7.1 1987 No Way Out
7.1 1991 Homicide
7.1 1992 Bad Lieutenant
7.1 1992 Juice
7.1 1994 The Last Seduction
7.1 1999 Payback
7.1 1999 The Limey
7.2 1971 Klute
7.2 1973 Magnum Force
7.2 1974 The Parallax View
7.2 1975 Farewell, My Lovely
7.2 1978 The Driver
7.2 1983 Bad Boys
7.2 1986 Manhunter
7.2 1989 Lethal Weapon II
7.2 1991 Point Break
7.2 1992 Bitter Moon
7.2 1992 One False Move
7.2 1993 In the Line of Fire
7.2 1996 From Dusk Till Dawn
7.2 2002 Insomnia
7.2 2002 Narc
7.2 2002 Red Dragon
7.2 2003 The Matrix Reloaded
7.3 1973 Mean Streets
7.3 1985 To Live and Die in L.A.
7.3 1986 The Hitcher
7.3 1987 Angel Heart
7.3 1987 House of Games
7.3 1990 Horseplayer
7.3 1991 Cape Fear
7.3 1994 Death and the Maiden
7.3 1994 Natural Born Killers
7.3 1997 Face/Off
7.3 1998 Enemy of the State
7.3 1998 Ronin
7.3 2007 Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
7.4 1967 Point Blank
7.4 1969 Medium Cool
7.4 1972 Fat City
7.4 1980 Atlantic City
7.4 1981 Blow Out
7.4 1981 Body Heat
7.4 1989 Drugstore Cowboy
7.4 1996 Bound
7.5 1971 Get Carter
7.5 1972 The Getaway
7.5 1973 Charlie Varrick
7.5 1973 The Friends of Eddie Coyle
7.5 1976 The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
7.5 1990 Jacob’s Ladder
7.5 1993 A Perfect World
7.5 1993 Menace II Society
7.5 1997 Jackie Brown
7.5 1998 Buffalo ‘66
7.5 1999 Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
7.5 2002 Equilibrium
7.5 2002 Gangs of New York
7.5 2004 Collateral
7.5 2005 A History of Violence
7.6 1973 High Plains Drifter
7.6 1978 Midnight Express
7.6 1981 Prince of the City
7.6 1984 Blood Simple
7.6 1987 Lethal Weapon
7.6 1993 Falling Down
7.6 1997 Lost Highway
7.6 2001 The Man Who Wasn’t There
7.6 2002 Minority Report
7.6 2005 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
7.6 2006 Inside Man
7.7 1973 The Long Goodbye
7.7 1985 After Hours
7.7 1998 Dark City
7.7 2002 Road to Perdition
7.7 2004 Man on Fire
7.7 2008 Changeling
7.8 1971 Dirty Harry
7.8 1971 The French Connection
7.8 1986 Blue Velvet
7.8 1990 Miller’s Crossing
7.8 1991 Boyz in the Hood
7.8 1993 A Bronx Tale
7.8 1997 Donnie Brasco
7.8 1997 Gattaca
7.8 1997 The Game
7.8 2004 The Bourne Supremacy
7.8 2007 American Gangster
7.9 1973 Badlands
7.9 1974 The Conversation
7.9 1986 Crime Story (Pilot)
7.9 1993 Carlito’s Way
7.9 2002 The Bourne Identity
8.0 1975 Dog Day Afternoon
8.0 1976 All the President’s Men
8.0 2001 Mulholland Drive
8.0 2003 Mystic River
8.0 2004 Kill Bill: Vol. 2
8.0 2007 The Bourne Ultimatum
8.1 1967 Le Samourai
8.1 1996 Fargo
8.1 1998 The Big Lebowski
8.1 2003 Kill Bill: Vol. 1
8.1 2007 No Country for Old Men
8.1 2008 Gran Torino
8.2 1974 Chinatown
8.2 1980 Raging Bull
8.2 1982 Blade Runner
8.2 1988 Die Hard
8.2 1995 Casino
8.2 1995 Heat
8.2 2005 Batman Begins
8.3 1992 Reservoir Dogs
8.3 1997 L.A. Confidential
8.5 2000 Memento
8.5 2006 The Departed
8.5 2006 The Prestige
8.6 1991 The Silence of the Lambs
8.7 1990 Goodfellas
8.7 1999 The Matrix
8.8 1999 Fight Club
8.9 1994 Pulp Fiction
9.0 2008 The Dark Knight
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