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    Wilshere and today

    Posted by Kirkby HatterUser icon on 30/8/2026, 18:51:43

    He got schooled by a proper experienced manager who I would take in a heartbeat as our manager.
    I live just outside Mansfield so feel able to comment on their team. They had four first choice players out injured so please do not make the excuse (as posted below) that we were tired after Thursdays game, we were shocking today, and not one player came off that pitch with ANY credit.
    I don’t like digging out players but after his performance today am left with no choice, Lawrence….he was a disgrace to the shirt, didn’t look interested from the first whistle and it only got worse and was rightly hoiked off at half time and don’t get me started on Jones…five million!!
    That’s on Wilshere along with starting Donley, who looked so far off the pace it was embarrassing (not his fault).
    Finally, let’s stop the love in with Wilshere, we’ve conceded eleven goals in three games against mid table teams, have probably got one of the biggest budgets in this league and will probably sign another attacking midfielder before the transfer deadline.

      Re: Wilshere and today

      Posted by HHUser icon on 30/8/2026, 19:25:06, in reply to "Wilshere and today "

      Reluctant to say this because I don’t want to come across as though I’ve been waiting for this but I’ve never really bought into the Wilshere lov in. I’ve deliberately not said much because he clearly deserves credit for that excellent run at the end of last season. But ultimately it was a very good 12-week spell with a very, very expensive squad.

      And, as has been said to death, 7th was a fucking shite outcome for Luton given our wealth and notions of being well run a club with parachute payments and the biggest budget in the division. That’s a catastrophic underachievement and for me it inevitably taints how I view that late run. It was good, absolutely, but it was also pretty much the bare minimum we should have expected from that squad by that point.

      He’s got a lot to prove for me, and there are some really worrying signs already. We seem to be getting echoes of Rob and Matt at their worst — a complete inability to be pragmatic, some very hard to understand line ups and an inability to set the team up defensively and do the basics.

      It’s far too early to write him off course. And the media wankfest over him at times is a bit much, but that’s not his fault either. It happens with every big name former footballer cutting their teeth in the lower leagues.

      Three games in and Stockport at home now feels quite big. Didn’t think we’d be here as only a few months ago we were saying how dull the fixture list was!

        Re: Wilshere and today

        Posted by Ramridge RaiderUser icon on 30/8/2026, 20:05:10, in reply to "Re: Wilshere and today "

        We performed well in that run-in but for balance, we did play a lot of sides who were in horrendous form.

        I agree with you about Wilshere. I dont get the 'lov in'. He's a new manager learning his trade, getting some things right and some things wrong. He now has a major dilemma on his hands. Plan A was to play out from the back with Walsh in the QB role. That's clearly not working and will not get us promoted.

        Will Jack compromise on his principles and become a little more pragmatic or will he stubbornly continue in the same way hoping that somehow it will turn itself round.

        If he can get these decisions right then he might be worthy of a 'lov in' at the end of the season.



        Re: Wilshere and today

        Posted by Mayor of RudeburyUser icon on 30/8/2026, 19:09:56, in reply to "Wilshere and today "

        I find all the social propaganda from the club to be a bit much.

        I would expect the club to support their manager but it comes across as trying too hard to convince. “The fans are everything”, “We’re connecting with the fans”, “This club means so much to the boys” etc., etc… Heard it all before. Change the song.

        That flippin’ cup win served to paper over the crack last season. We ended up just outside of the playoffs but our football, aside from the occasional glimmer of brilliance was mostly unconvincing.

        Overall, I’m not sure about Wilshere. I suspect we’re a vessel to help improve his profile but it honestly looks as if it’s backfiring at this point.

          Re: Wilshere and today

          Posted by Trindle and BuffoonUser icon on 30/8/2026, 19:07:16, in reply to "Wilshere and today "

          Clough is a savvy manager and not only prepared his team but got them up for the fight.

          Despite that, our lack of fight and inability to defend is worrying. The spine of the team is poor and I hope is a work in progress. I think everyone can see the imbalance in midfield.

          As for the fullback situation, this is farcical. In my own opinion, I do not think Jones wants to be here and if he were to depart I would not lose sleep over it.

            Re: Wilshere and today

            Posted by ToddingtonsteveUser icon on 30/8/2026, 20:15:47, in reply to "Re: Wilshere and today "

            In defence of Jones, it’s not his fault that we continually ship goals from the other side of the pitch

            Re: Wilshere and today

            Posted by Ampthill MobUser icon on 30/8/2026, 19:01:02, in reply to "Wilshere and today "

            Lawrence has been poor in every game. Very static and doesn't track back when the opposition attack, a luxury we cant afford. Donley started despite not being fit as we had no body else to play there. Embarrassing all round.


            League one again ole ole

              Re: Wilshere and today

              Posted by RMUser icon on 30/8/2026, 20:36:35, in reply to "Re: Wilshere and today "

              Kadua could have played there, Richards could move central and Palmer could play there.
              We had options.

              Re: Wilshere and today

              Posted by CamavingaUser icon on 30/8/2026, 19:00:57, in reply to "Wilshere and today "

              Playing Thursday would not of benefited the side for sure versus Mansfield at home and fresher. They are probably pound for pound one of the best team in the league, Punching above their weight.

              Other fancied sides will get turned over there.

                Re: Wilshere and today

                Posted by ShutupyaUser icon on 30/8/2026, 19:07:39, in reply to "Re: Wilshere and today "

                That maybe true .. but they didn't have to play well to beat us today, they were just more competitive, more robust and had 11 players that gave a shit where as we looked slow, meek and certain players looked disinterested (as usual)

                Re: Wilshere and today

                Posted by HatterchatterUser icon on 30/8/2026, 18:56:35, in reply to "Wilshere and today "

                Agree with all that ...and Lawrence is a bang average player. He makes us worse when he plays.

                  Re: Wilshere and today

                  Posted by SnapperUser icon on 30/8/2026, 19:03:39, in reply to "Re: Wilshere and today "

                  Must admit, he looked good after he got taken out of the team last year but started poor. This year same again very poor going forward and doesn’t track back and help Naismith. Looks too casual with no urgency

                    Re: Wilshere and today

                    Posted by Jardine3User icon on 30/8/2026, 19:07:27, in reply to "Re: Wilshere and today "

                    Can't put a spin on this result. Mansfield are bang average and far from being one of the best sides in the league

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