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    Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

    Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 21/8/2026, 15:10:44

    The UK government ran a larger-than-expected £1.8bn deficit in July, underlining the challenges facing the chancellor, John Healey, as he draws up his first budget.

    City economists had expected a shortfall of zero for July, a month when Treasury receipts tend to be swollen by self-assessment income tax

    At £17.1bn, the self-assessment tax paid in July was £1.7bn higher than the same month last year. But the Office for National Statistics said the government still ran the £1.8bn deficit, as “spending growth outpaced receipts”.

    In the first four months of this financial year the cumulative deficit was £56.7bn – lower than last year but still £2.3bn ahead of the figure forecast by the Office for Budget Responsibility.



    At that time, Reeves had a generous £23.6bn buffer, or headroom, against her fiscal rules, but analysts believe a significant proportion of that may be eaten away by higher inflation, slower growth and rising bond yields.

    Moves in global bond markets in recent days have pushed up the yield – in effect the interest rate – on government bonds, creating a fresh headache for the chancellor.

    Martin Beck, chief economist at the consultancy WPI Strategy, said: “Ten-year gilt yields are above 5%, reflecting energy-related inflation concerns, and these will gradually feed through into a larger debt-interest bill as existing debt is refinanced. At the same time, the government faces pressure to loosen inherited spending plans, meet unfunded defence commitments and deliver on its own ambitions for housing, infrastructure and public services.”

    The UK’s large debt pile means small moves in interest rates can be costly over time.

    The ONS said total public debt was £2.98tn in July, or 94% of GDP – up £96bn on a year earlier – in line with Labour’s plan to borrow for investment in infrastructure projects.

      Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

      Posted by Ronnies FingerUser icon on 21/8/2026, 16:26:52, in reply to "Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

      Who gives a shit, you still will go down the pub for a beer before the game tomorrow? that’s all that matters.
      Labour
      Tories
      Reform

      Who gives a flying one, nothing changes, all self serving, lying bastards the lot em.
      All the point scoring on here , quite laughable..

      Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

      Posted by Andy CappuccinoUser icon on 21/8/2026, 16:26:14, in reply to "Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

      In short we were f##ked after 14 years of Tories and now we are even more f##ked after 2 years of Labour, time for a change peeps

        Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

        Posted by AlanProperIrishUser icon on 21/8/2026, 19:04:08, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

        How are we more fucked after 2 years of Labour. I'm interested to know.


        Our day will come

        Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

        Posted by bbbUser icon on 21/8/2026, 15:47:27, in reply to "Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"
        WUM

        Fear not. Big Nige and his boys will sort it all soon as they have the keys to No.10. The illegals, chick's with dicks, nonces and Watford fans will all be fucked off. The workshy benefit spongers forced to work. Peace and prosperity will spread across our wonderful country. Arise Sir Nigel.

          Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

          Posted by Ampthill MobUser icon on 21/8/2026, 15:32:20, in reply to "Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

          Gilts are nearly at 6%. There is zero confidence in Burnham and his mob.

          Truss “crashed” the economy and got hounded by the media and sacked when they were at nearly 5%.


          League one again ole ole

          Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

          Posted by CubaUser icon on 21/8/2026, 15:15:27, in reply to "Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

          Quite - yet still the “experts” are the experts

          Meanwhile Morris ✈️

          FFS


          Winning is everything - more than you have

            Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

            Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 21/8/2026, 15:44:38, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

            Sadly none of the experts have found their way into your Labour government…
            The changes to employment laws , the increase in ni will mean unemployment continues to rise.
            More wealth fare required and less tax revenue….what could possibly go wrong.
            We have to hope Healy reverses the ni contributions otherwise we are just going to get in more and more debt.

              Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

              Posted by CubaUser icon on 21/8/2026, 15:57:46, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

              It will be interesting if people are still so keen to increase defence spending….including Mr Healy

              Still three long years yet time to rejoin the EU and fix things.

              And don’t mention the standards committee, suspect an earlier GE once they publish their decision


              Winning is everything - more than you have

                Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 15:54:02, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                As you are so interested in debt, can you do a cut and paste on it from 2010-2024.

                Otherwise you might come across as an idiot.

                You could always do the unemployment figures to boot.

                  Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                  Posted by EarlsUser icon on 21/8/2026, 17:53:43, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                  Not a single post about Luton or football in general since the season started, jumping in to call someone stupid. What a weird, nasty piece of work.

                    Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                    Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 17:59:58, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                    Clearly understanding English is not for you.

                    Stick to team news.

                    Keep it simple.

                      Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                      Posted by EarlsUser icon on 21/8/2026, 18:14:44, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                      A load of irrelevant bobbins from a fuckwit trying and failing to be intellectually superior.
                      No idea why you bother posting on a forum about Luton when you demonstrably couldn’t care less about the club, but why not pack it in altogether? Unless maybe you’re posting about Morris’ injury on a politics message board. You’re that thick that I wouldn’t be at all surprised.
                      (See, it’s really very easy to call someone stupid.)

                        Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                        Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 18:27:48, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                        “Trying”

                        I mean you do all the work.

                        Point out where I called or posted someone was “stupid”

                        Surely you can pull that off.

                          Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                          Posted by EarlsUser icon on 21/8/2026, 19:01:26, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                          You’ve just claimed it about me. Wrongly, but you’ve had a go.
                          The post I initially replied to, which was your usual form: claiming someone else is an “idiot”. That’s just in this thread. There are others, but even I’m not that bored to bother finding them.
                          Now, my main point, which you’ve ignored: why the fuck do you almost never post about Luton or even football on a Luton message board, instead invariably going for political point scoring?
                          I’d ignore you if you posted any opinions about LTFC, but you just… don’t. Having a go at other posters’ politics with nearly every post instead just makes you a snide.

                            Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                            Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 19:06:04, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                            Genuine question.

                            Are you ok?

                              Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                              Posted by EarlsUser icon on 21/8/2026, 19:10:40, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                              Yes. Now, why not answer my question?

                                Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                                Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 19:15:58, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                                I think it’s best if I leave you alone.

                                Genuinely.

                                  Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                                  Posted by EarlsUser icon on 21/8/2026, 19:23:52, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                                  Only because you really don’t belong on a football forum and are incapable of responding when challenged about it.

                                    Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                                    Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 20:00:13, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                                    Honestly it’s not that you bore me to sleep.

                                    It’s the inane ranting and gibberish that makes me feel something is wrong.

                                    Now go away.

                                      Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                                      Posted by EarlsUser icon on 21/8/2026, 22:58:50, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                                      “Insane ranting and gibberish”? It’s factual to point out you haven’t posted about football since the season started.
                                      It’s factual to point out that, when you do post, it’s nearly always to try to insult others’ intelligence regarding politics.
                                      You accuse someone else of being “cowardly” in avoiding a question, when you’ve avoided on multiple occasions answering why you almost never post about Luton or football on a Luton forum.
                                      Your behaviour here is odd and nearly always unpleasant. I’m only treating you the way you do others. Deflecting that by trying to say I’m irrational? Snide as ever. Enjoy the football this weekend, whoever it is you support.

                    Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                    Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 21/8/2026, 16:18:02, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                    😂😂 you want to discuss economic data from 16 years ago…yet I come across as an idiot.
                    Your truly are the gift Bodger …

                      Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                      Posted by MGUser icon on 21/8/2026, 16:45:50, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                      I'd say "look out!" but you were never in danger of being hit by the point.

                        Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                        Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 16:41:36, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                        Emojis are always the sign of an idiot.

                        Let me try again or make it as simple as I can.

                        Give us the national debt in 2010.

                        Throw in the debt in 2024.

                        As you defended the simpletons during that period try and explain why it never bothered you.

                        I can’t do pictures.

                          Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                          Posted by E5 HatUser icon on 21/8/2026, 17:59:03, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                          You want to track debt - why? USA and China the real superpowers have huge debt. Its like calling out a mate down the pub as he has a big mortgage - yet still earns far more than you each month. Focus on what we are spending and how much drives growth, jobs and energy. Get that right and it solves our problem.

                            Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                            Posted by alrightchummyUser icon on 21/8/2026, 18:49:07, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                            Everyone has huge debt but the UK has comparably bigger debt than most including US and China.
                            The big question though is why haven't either Labour or Cons ever managed to even pay off the interest on that debt??
                            It's as though we've been going through cutbacks for nothing.

                              Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                              Posted by bodger1User icon on 21/8/2026, 19:07:46, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                              Do you want to divulge this “comparably”.

                              What metric is this?

                                Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                                Posted by alrightchummyUser icon on 21/8/2026, 22:38:49, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                                Compare land mass with the USA.
                                Compare land mass and population and then take a look at China's debt.
                                Would you like more help?

                              Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                              Posted by MGUser icon on 21/8/2026, 18:44:10, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                              Because we are spending an awful lot of money just servicing that debt maybe?

                              And I think The Questioner raised the debt as a point against the Labour government ignoring the fact that his preferred "side" generated most of it.

                                Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…

                                Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 21/8/2026, 18:33:28, in reply to "Re: Fao Cuba : Experts getting it wrong again…"

                                Stop it….thats way to sensible for Bodger…keep it yeah but Trump.

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