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    Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 21:41:04

    Seems like reform aren’t dead…. Burnham got 67% of the vote at the last election….it wasn’t even close.
    Whatever your views on reform they have certainly gained huge support from a standing start.

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      Posted by FarhatUser icon on 1/8/2026, 10:33:22, in reply to " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

      It's just business:

      Link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/aug/01/tangled-financial-web-reform-uk-nigel-farage

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        Posted by Andy CappuccinoUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:35:02, in reply to " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

        Reform are far from dead, it was a very low turnout which is not good for Reform according to the bloke with the mad hair on Talk TV. And Reform trounced Labour in 2 by-elections. Leftwaffe out in force regardless.

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        Posted by bbbUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:29:07, in reply to " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"
        WUM 2

        🤣🤣🤣 you've pretty much triggered everyone of the Brady Bunch mate!!

        Chuckles in SK11.

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          Posted by KbotUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:33:11, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

          Of course he has. Labour won. Certainly triggered me. But you just had to say something 😂. Can’t wait for your next genius point. You know you want to. Love the Brady Bunch.

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          Posted by GoddersUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:26:05, in reply to " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

          It's not even close this time!!!!!

          Bev Craig secured more than 300,000 votes to win mayoralty
          published at 23:11
          23:11
          Labour's Bev Craig wins the Greater Manchester mayoral election with a combined total of 309,525 votes, once first and second preferences are taken into account.

          Reform UK's Sian Astley comes in second with a combined total of 157,178.

          Live justly, love mercy, perpetuate generosity, walk humbly.

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            Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 1/8/2026, 9:21:37, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

            You are correct it wasn’t that close but Labours vote halved and Reforms went up by 3 fold in a City that has never been anything but Labour.👀👀👀

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            Posted by MGUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:10:18, in reply to " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

            47% vs 21%

            Bubble has burst?

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              Posted by Nick NBHUser icon on 31/7/2026, 21:59:26, in reply to " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

              This standing start bit is utter bollocks. You had UKIP, the EU referendum- a lot more than a "tanding start". Reform are however dead in the water without farage.

              It would be interesting to have the "pepsi chalenge" on policies taking out immigration and breaking "headline policies" down into the actual effects

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                Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:12:51, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                Two years ago….so to now be close to Labour is some achievement…deny at your peril I would suggest and I am not a reform voter.

                Candidate Party Number of valid votes given for each candidate
                AUSTIN, Jake Liberal Democrats 28,195
                BARKER, Dan Reform UK 49,532
                BUCKLEY, Nick Independent 50,304
                BURNHAM, Andy Labour and Co-operative Party 420,749
                EVANS, Laura The Conservative Party Candidate 68,946
                SPENCER, Hannah Kathrine Green Party 45,905
                Total number of votes 663,631

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                  Posted by CubaUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:28:29, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                  Having “walked” the local elections this was supposed to be a Reform win.

                  Moreover Labour are now as far as 5 pts ahead in national polling, so much has changed since the press finally found a backbone and are scrutinising Farage properly.

                  Winning is everything - more than you have

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                    Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:37:31, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                    You are massively clutching …2 years ago Labour had 420k votes and reform had 49k …if you think that’s not seismic you are delusional.

                    Deflect with the national polls and what the press are saying about Farage but have some honesty and admit this is a huge swing in what people are voting for.

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                      Posted by bodger1User icon on 31/7/2026, 22:45:29, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                      For a Tory boy you seem a tad obsessed about Deform.

                      Do you have a crush on him?

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                        Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:57:44, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                        Very grown up intelligent post as usual Bodger…at least you are consistent.

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                          Posted by bodger1User icon on 31/7/2026, 23:01:19, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                          You’d better look at that close result again.

                          Sleep tight.

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                            Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:11:51, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                            Haven’t seen it Bodge did they get 67% versus 8% …or have they increased the majority.

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                              Posted by KbotUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:23:35, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                              It was not a full term election. It was called to replace Burnham. Green vote up taking votes from Labour. Very low turnout should have helped Reform based on Manchester local council elections. Labour won. A few weeks ago that result would have never been possible. Farage is going down the pan. Clutching defeat from the jaws of victory. Cant wait to compare Farage vote against Count Binface.

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                                Posted by MGUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:13:20, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                47 vs 21.

                                If 52 to 48 was the "Voice of the country" . . .

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                                  Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:22:33, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                  That’s a good result for Labour ..why the fuck do they need to count the second votes when the gap is that big or is that after the second votes ?
                                  If so what was the percentage of the first round?

                                  Stupid comment…the voice of the country as you call it was 2.5 million people …this election had @ 500k people.

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                                    Posted by KbotUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:44:29, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                    Because it wasn’t a first past the post Westminster election. If someone didn’t have 50% of the vote automatically went to second preference votes. Just the way it works. Didn’t you know that?

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                                      Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 1/8/2026, 9:18:39, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                      Well on the basis I posted a comment about it obviously I knew it ..I was going to say being condescending doesn’t suit you but actually you wear it pretty well.

                                      The point I was making is that Labour secured a large lead in the first round …whilst mess around with time & money , we don’t do that with a general election.

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                                      Posted by MGUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:30:23, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                      It's not a stupid comment, just think it through, surely we don't have to explain proportions to you do we?

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                                        Posted by KbotUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:29:17, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                        But Clacton will speak for everyone and will prove Farage is not dodgy. Only reason I want him back is so that he can be kicked out again.

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                                    Posted by Nick NBHUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:08:16, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                    tbf no voting figures are out. only the result. I am however amused fraga ehas found clacton to ward of the challenge of a bin

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                            Posted by Nick NBHUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:27:53, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                            on 25% turnout . I just feel that the majority of reforms support is based on a guy who takes 5 million bungs undeclared and the immigrant angle - which i`m not convinced hey can or indeed want to go away.

                            YBH i`m not even a fan of people voting on party lines for local or police elections. But I`ve been known to vote tactically on those

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                          Posted by Nearly a GeniusUser icon on 31/7/2026, 21:52:50, in reply to " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"
                          Legend of Outlaws

                          Well, as far as I can see, Farridge is a conman.
                          The Met are investigating £500,000 supposedly given to Reform, regarding "potential false statements or disguised funding sources".

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                            Posted by The QuestionerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:39:28, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                            Thought you voted locally so why would that have anything to do with the Manchester mayoral election?

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                              Posted by Nearly a GeniusUser icon on 1/8/2026, 14:25:41, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"
                              Legend of Outlaws

                              Eh?
                              What has where I live and vote got to do with seeing a greedy conman for what he is? And for pointing out that his limited company is being investigated?

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                              Posted by Nick NBHUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:11:10, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                              He apes trump
                              -maximum personal reward for minimal actual work
                              -media dodging
                              -populist policies that dont bear scrutiny
                              -rules don't apply
                              -always the victim

                              Trump has his fanatical followers. same as farage, Both can do no wrong...but apply their offences against anyone else its a big issue

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                                Posted by MGUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:50:28, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                Remember the hysterics about Starmer's free sunglasses? They were all over it.

                                The 5 million? No problem.

                                The 2 million routed rather dubiously? No problem.

                                The related shift in policy / lobbying to crypto? No problem.

                                Incitement to burn / knife / shoot opposition people? Nothing much to see here.

                                Jokey t-shirt - incitement to murder.

                                It is beyond any kind of reason to accept this horseshit but plenty do.

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                                  Posted by bodger1User icon on 31/7/2026, 22:56:30, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                  Like the predator in the states, it’s a religious cult of the most stupidest kernts on the planet.

                                  We don’t have as many thankfully.

                                  Monty Python should do another “life of Brian”.

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                                    Posted by MGUser icon on 31/7/2026, 23:12:15, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                    Even Monty Python couldn't make this lot look any more stupid.

                                    The amount of resource they are putting into Clacton in a fight against a bin . . . they are panicking.

                                    I can't see the good Count winning but it would probably be the best by-election result ever if he did.

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                                Posted by HuNUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:03:09, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                The met seem to be spending more time investigating politicians, journalists and businessmen than anything else.


                                “You get a wonderful view from the point of no return.” Terry Pratchett

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                                  Posted by StanBakerUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:22:45, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                  'The historic phone-hacking/corrupt payments inquiries of the 2010s cost upwards of £41 million over several years' according to Google.

                                  'That represents a tiny fraction of the Met's overall annual operating budgets of the decade which ran into the billions.'

                                  Doubt much has changed.

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                                    Posted by Nick NBHUser icon on 31/7/2026, 22:32:36, in reply to "Re: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn9nvx2jvl0t"

                                    What really does need investigating is farages claims the russians haked his phone to find teh 5 milion. Especially as he doesnt want to talk about it.

                                    When you throw nathan gill into the mix youd would have thought farage would be defenidng national security to the hilt if he thinks it was the russians. But an investigation may prove awkward.

                                    Politicans who cry russia and then quickly say forget about it who have people they never met but have clearly met who are in prison for bribery do rasie some suspcion

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