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    Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

    Posted by J in C on 20/7/2026, 10:42:13
    WUM Extraordinaire

    Great Mayor of Manchester and a new Dawn for Labour and this country

      Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

      Posted by RGDave on 20/7/2026, 19:26:11, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

      You feeling ok? Odd comment.

        Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

        Posted by Farhat on 20/7/2026, 18:30:42, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

        That's not an opposing view though, is it? I'd guess most on here would agree with you.

          Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

          Posted by Voice of reason on 20/7/2026, 17:54:12, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

          Perhaps not the words I’d have used on here but it’s hard to disagree with the message! They all need to Foxtrot Oscar !

            Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

            Posted by TonyB on 20/7/2026, 18:14:33, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

            Indeed.
            Burnham returning (having been an utter failure before) with a shiny new message.
            It's almost as though people have forgotten quite how shit this fella is.
            Mind you, I wouldn't trust any leader from any other party right now either.
            Sad times !

              Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

              Posted by Caught Jester on 20/7/2026, 18:23:42, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

              I think I get it. What you really mean is you want him to fail.

                Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                Posted by Voice of reason on 20/7/2026, 21:57:28, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                If you think that you are missing the point. They have already failed and they need to be gone. A new leader will bring more if the same but with variable focus. They are the party of benefits when they should be creating employment which not only reduces benefits but gains income tax and NI.

                  Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                  Posted by Caught Jester on 20/7/2026, 22:27:16, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                  They have already failed and need to be gone

                  Please enlighten me. Who is the person with the magic wand? You know - just so some of us can have a good laugh..".

                    Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                    Posted by bodger1 on 20/7/2026, 22:02:47, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                    Yes it’s that easy.

                    Weird how you’ve missed the last two decades of a no growth society that manufactures F all ( sold off )

                    Tell us how you manufacture jobs from thin air.

                    It’s fascinating.

                    Of course most on benefits work but you knew that unless you are pissed.

                      Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                      Posted by Voice of reason on 21/7/2026, 8:42:00, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                      You are totally wrong. Most people on benefits do not work.

                        Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                        Posted by bodger1 on 21/7/2026, 10:06:29, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                        I’d suggest brains you look at the figures.

                        40% working.

                        60% not which includes the disabled and terminally ill people, not to mention chronic disease.

                        No doubt you’d call them scrounges of course.

                        I noticed you also ignored the miracle job creation you dribbled about.

                        Don’t be shy as I need a laugh

                          Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                          Posted by Voice of reason on 21/7/2026, 11:59:10, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                          You are the one being laughed at. I said more people on benefits do not work than work. I made no inference about their being scroungers or otherwise. It was purely a matter of fact which you, genius, write down figures that prove I was correct.

                            Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                            Posted by bodger1 on 21/7/2026, 14:09:53, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                            Let me help brains.

                            Out of the 60% not working 37% are classed as not fit to work for the reasons stated above.

                            Now 37% of 60% makes it less than the 40%.

                            I’ve made it as simple as I can for you but you still struggle.

                            Now for a 3rd time can you explain this mythical job creation scheme you have please?

                              Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                              Posted by Voice of reason on 21/7/2026, 17:18:28, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                              Which part of maths don’t you understand, I’m making no judgements just stating facts. It matters not how many are out of work versus how many are unable to work the money to pay them benefits has to come from somewhere. They have to live and it would seem that taxes must cover it. Does it not then make senses that the government has to raise the money from somewhere. You just have an agenda that you are going to flog to death whatever anyone says. It’s not my job to devise job creation schemes and I don’t see this government creating any either, they just wanted to screw pensioners. Perhaps Burnham has some ideas. He better had if he doesn’t want the pensioners to bring down Labour at the next election. They are the largest group that use their vote.

                                Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                Posted by bodger1 on 21/7/2026, 17:37:13, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                Next time you want to have a dig at “benefits” do some research.

                                It’s easy to read a right wing article and just go with the flow without facts or ignorance.

                                The latest agenda spouted is scrap benefits and give it to the MOD. A crowd of crooks who have wasted/fraud 300 billion in the last 20 years alone unaccounted for.

                                9 billion proven.

                                You claimed Labour should create jobs out of thin air and get people of benefits.

                                It’s a stupid comment at best and simplistic garbage at worst.

                                It matters greatly who can work and who is unable when I have to hear or read folk spouting shit without even knowing basic figures.

                              Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 21/7/2026, 13:28:22, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"
                              Legend of Outlaws

                              It's disingenuous at the very least to include disabled and long-term sick people in "not working".

                                Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                Posted by jimmyp on 21/7/2026, 12:55:12, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                'implication' not 'inference'.

                                Genius.


                                COYH, Jim

                  Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                  Posted by J in C on 20/7/2026, 17:54:09, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"
                  WUM Extraordinaire

                  Don't be daft

                    Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                    Posted by Bilko on 20/7/2026, 17:05:59, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                    Pithy summary.
                    Who would you recommend?

                    Honestly want to hear your considered
                    opinion


                    Every day is a school day if you are prepared to accept it

                      Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                      Posted by AlanProperIrish on 20/7/2026, 15:31:28, in reply to "Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                      Yes. Absolutely. And one hopes so. The Labour Party needs to refocus.


                      Our day will come

                        Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                        Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 20/7/2026, 13:50:33, in reply to "Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                        Promising speech, I can't ask for much more than that as a statement of direction. Time will tell though, I'm not encouraged by the people around him (lot of Blairite ghouls), and the right wing of the Parliamentary Labour Party will happily disrupt everything and crash the plane into the mountain rather than accept not being the pilot any more.

                          What's that feeling?

                          Posted by Farhat on 20/7/2026, 13:35:42, in reply to "Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                          Is it hope?

                          A decent short speech, looking forward to hearing his vision tomorrow.

                            Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                            Posted by Ampthill Fan on 20/7/2026, 12:19:41, in reply to "Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                            Starts new job..now off on 6 week holiday..Personally..I have no idea why Starmer was ousted..this new guy says he will stick to the manifesto..so why change leader

                              Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                              Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 20/7/2026, 13:45:59, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                              There was barely anything in the manifesto. Easy to "stick to" while doing a lot more besides

                                Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                Posted by MG on 20/7/2026, 12:48:58, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                6 week holiday?

                                He's a proper PM not Boris Johnson!

                                  Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                  Posted by Ampthill Fan on 20/7/2026, 12:59:34, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                  Parliament closes..message go on holiday

                                    Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                    Posted by MG on 20/7/2026, 13:07:04, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                    So you think that's what he will do? Go on a six week holiday?

                                      Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                      Posted by Ampthill Fan on 20/7/2026, 15:42:11, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                      Yes..looks the type to take up all his holiday quota..He may look for his Northern office in Manchesters posh area..his wife does not want to live in London it seems..so bugger the cost open a Nortern outpost..not his money is it

                                        Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 20/7/2026, 15:47:58, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"
                                        MIB

                                        'Manchester's posh area' 🤣

                                        Ancoats is the front runner, you absolutely clueless clown

                                          Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                          Posted by Ampthill Fan on 20/7/2026, 17:23:14, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                          Well who gives a txss where it is..take the job on you base yourself in Downing St..

                                            Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                            Posted by El Crapitan on 20/7/2026, 19:53:12, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                            Can you not spell “toss”??

                                              Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                              Posted by crumpsall on 20/7/2026, 18:33:37, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"
                                              MIB

                                              You obviously give a toss given that you commented (cluelessly, as ever) on it.

                                              Personally I don't think it's a particularly good idea, but the absolute nonsense and guff people like you post is ridiculous


                                              Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                              Posted by J in C on 20/7/2026, 16:40:51, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"
                                              WUM Extraordinaire

                                              Wilmslow is nice

                                      Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                      Posted by Kbot on 20/7/2026, 12:35:12, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                      Yep. Nothing for him to do while parliament is in recess. Not sure the manifesto was Starmer’s biggest problem. Big change in leadership and priorities needed. Not that important really. Actually, don’t know why Truss went.

                                    Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                    Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 20/7/2026, 10:49:43, in reply to "Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                    Welcome to the nightmare left by your predecessor, dread to think what you'll be leaving for the next one. And hope Project Hexagon catches up with you.

                                      Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                      Posted by MG on 20/7/2026, 11:38:45, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                      It is indeed a nightmare.

                                      A bit of an improvement from a couple of years ago but yes, still a hell of a lot to do.

                                        Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                        Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 20/7/2026, 11:20:01, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                        Extremely short sighted. Not unexpected though from the thick as pig shit ones who blindly follow their own party's policies irrespective of how shit they may actually be.

                                          Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                          Posted by Round Green Hatter on 20/7/2026, 12:13:56, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                          Are you intellectually challenged?

                                            Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                            Posted by bodger1 on 20/7/2026, 13:09:15, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                            It’s a fair assessment.

                                            I’m not sure I could find anything kinder or better to describe the two halfwits above.

                                            They display the judgement on a daily basis on here.

                                          Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                          Posted by J in C on 20/7/2026, 10:59:58, in reply to "Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"
                                          WUM Extraordinaire

                                          Didn't starmer inherit a chaos from your mates

                                          Just speaking for the country

                                          Re: Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today

                                          Posted by Darando on 20/7/2026, 10:46:59, in reply to "Ca n we all welcome Andy Burnham today"

                                          Oh lip up fatty. You said the very same thing just two years ago.

                                          Three more years - at best - under Hard Labour.

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