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    VAR . . . . .

    Posted by Sheff on 11/5/2026, 4:46:17

    I think most fans of the premiership game and fans in general see don't see VAR in a positive way, not because of the decisions it helps the ref to make correctly but fans are pissed off because of the time delays.

    Bearing in mind that we would have been in the playoffs if the ref had seen the Lincoln keeper trip up on his own boot laces I think VAR is a worthwhile addition to the game.

    But it can be made so much better. . . .

    Football needs to copy cricket, teams should have 3 referrals to VAR each game (or each half?). And exactly as happens in cricket if you make a false claim you lose it, make a confirmed claim you stay at 3 referrals.

    I would also like to suggest the football kicks the offside rule over the main stand. Yeah I admit it sounds ridiculous but if a team plays with there no9 hanging around the edge of the penalty area 1 or 2 defenders will have to stay back to cover the long ball to the no9. The benefit of this is the game will not be tippy tappy football around the back 4 or 5 because the game would be stretched from one penalty are to the other. It will give creative midfielders so much more time and space to do their thing.

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      Re: VAR . . . . .

      Posted by Doctor Ince on 11/5/2026, 13:48:58, in reply to "VAR . . . . . "

      I don't think you can pinpoint that one moment against Lincoln as the reason we're not in the playoffs.

      We were properly shit for half a a season and that has more to do with it.

      You could also pinpoint Naismith shitting the bed against reading etc etc.

      Scrap VAR it's not fit for purpose. We were told it would end contentious decisions And only be used for clear and obvious errors.

      If it takes 5 minutes it's not clear and obvious, and it's no less contentious. Does help the result be shifted the way they [\I] want, though

        Re: VAR . . . . .

        Posted by Round Green Hatter on 11/5/2026, 9:55:17, in reply to "VAR . . . . . "

        Get rid of it, it is shite has has ruined top flight football. I never wanted it, I couldn't see how it would ever work. How people who had ever played the game thought it would work proves that people of the top of most organisations are blaggers.

        It works in cricket because there is a natural break in play every 30 secs when the ball goes dead, so it doesn't feel as intrusive.

        People say it works in rugby, but does it? The odd game of rugby I watch seems to be people standing around with their hands on their hips looking up at a big screen.

          Re: VAR . . . . .

          Posted by Ronnies Finger on 11/5/2026, 8:53:26, in reply to "VAR . . . . . "

          Simple for me, get rid of VAR, apart from goal line camera.
          Can’t get rid of Offside, but go back to whole player in front of defender, with daylight in between , not a finger, or toenail.
          Also start to clamp down on this pushing and shoving on corners , where did that shit start?

          Blokes wrestling one second, nothing given, then a slight touch in back, player “draws” the foul, then free kick or pen given! What’s the difference.

          Players surrounding referee, start giving out cards, yellow, then reds.
          Football is a simple game , don’t complicate it.

            Re: VAR . . . . .

            Posted by El Crapitan on 11/5/2026, 8:32:34, in reply to "VAR . . . . . "

            Highly unlikely that disallowed Lincoln goal would have been overturned by VAR.

            I'd far rather the money spent on VAR was used to widen the use of goal-line tech.

              Re: VAR . . . . .

              Posted by The Outsider on 11/5/2026, 8:40:56, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "
              VIP

              That decision would definitely have been overturned as he clearly wasn't touched by any Luton player. There wasn't one near enough to touch him. That said, I am still against VAR.

              I agree about goalline technology. See my post below.

                Re: VAR . . . . .

                Posted by El Crapitan on 11/5/2026, 8:57:52, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                Whilst you and I can clearly see it was a clear and obvious error, I'm not convinced based on the officials I've seen this season that a referee and VAR referee would agree ......

                  Re: VAR . . . . .

                  Posted by Misty on 11/5/2026, 8:43:59, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                  The Chavs goal in their last game would have been disallowed as the whole of the ball was not over the whole of the line.

                    Re: VAR . . . . .

                    Posted by The Outsider on 11/5/2026, 8:46:48, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "
                    VIP

                    As I said, that would not have been looked at by VAR. It would have been a goalline technology decision which is a completely separate thing.

                      Re: VAR . . . . .

                      Posted by Misty on 11/5/2026, 8:45:11, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                      Whoops, just seen your post below.

                  Re: VAR . . . . .

                  Posted by Buzzard on 11/5/2026, 7:30:43, in reply to "VAR . . . . . "

                  No.

                  Just get rid and deal with what happens.

                  It's shit

                    Re: VAR . . . . .

                    Posted by Controllable on 11/5/2026, 5:57:24, in reply to "VAR . . . . . "

                    I respectfully disagree. VAR takes away the joy of scoring and replaces it with uncertainty and anxiety, I despise it. Plus, while we had bad decisions for the disallowed winner v Lincoln and the Stevenage non-goal, we’ve had a lot of penalties, so on the law of averages one or two of those might have been reversed. Ditching VAR and returning to normal referees was the best thing about going down from the Prem, imho. It’s still subjective with VAR anyway.

                      Re: VAR . . . . .

                      Posted by The Outsider on 11/5/2026, 8:37:09, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "
                      VIP

                      The Stevenage non-goal was nothing to do with VAR. That was down to the absence of goalline technology which 100 per cent should be used in L1 and L2. If it had been in use in the NL, Rochdale would probably have been promoted two weeks ago. I have yet to see any footage of the York goal that suggests that it crossed the line.

                      Unfortunately, cost would probably rule it out at NL level but I definitely think that it has to be introduced in L1 and L2. To be honest, until nine days ago, I thought that it was already in use in those divisions.

                        Re: VAR . . . . .

                        Posted by Controllable on 11/5/2026, 16:27:26, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                        Fair point re goal-line tech of course, which I am in favour of, as it is instant and works. I appreciate there are cost challenges but it will be a pity if they can’t find a way to do that in L1 and L2. I was the same as you, assumed it was there until the other week

                          Re: VAR . . . . .

                          Posted by MG on 11/5/2026, 9:39:05, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                          Same here and I had a look at it. Apparently goal line tech is £250k per stadium. Plus £15k testing fees and ongoing maintenance charges.

                          Personally I think it should be centrally funded, it works brilliantly but that's still a nasty hit for some teams at least so they would need help.

                          Re: VAR . . . . .

                          Posted by Jake on 11/5/2026, 6:04:07, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                          This.

                          Can't stand it.
                          Who cares if you get the odd one go against you, it has always been part of football.

                          I used to watch some premier games before VAR , now I hardly bother ,it has become a circus for those that dont go to football.

                          The football authorities should listen to the fans and ditch it.

                            Re: VAR . . . . .

                            Posted by Honey Badger on 11/5/2026, 16:13:49, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                            Agree with all that, you get some decisions and some you dont.
                            I hated it in the PL when you scored, you always felt it could be chalked off for something trivial and couldn't fully celebrate!

                              Re: VAR . . . . .

                              Posted by The Outsider on 11/5/2026, 16:43:40, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "
                              VIP

                              The classic was the goal against Liverpool at home where the goal could not only have been chalked off but it could have been replaced by a penalty to them.

                              Re: VAR . . . . .

                              Posted by TopH on 11/5/2026, 6:25:01, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                              Biggest problem wit VAR for me is the ridiculous time it takes. Usually if its a foul or whatever ,the commentators on the game call it within 5 seconds of watching ,why does it take so many minutes for the refs final decision.
                              That said though it would be simple to sort out they will never do that so just scrap it.
                              And as for managers having 3 chances to call it, fuck that they've ruined football enough with out that sort of nonsense, bring that in and you'll get an ad break every time a manager plays his joker,then some clown will say lets split the game into quarters now the fans are used to more breaks

                                Re: VAR . . . . .

                                Posted by m on 11/5/2026, 7:12:37, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                                You’ll also have teams just using a referral in the last minute if they are 1-0 just to try their luck
                                Biggest issue for me with Var is the inconsistency,Arsenal have scored goals similar to the one that was disallowed yesterday that have stood
                                Why don’t they use ex players as Var officials who have a feeling for the game ?

                                  Re: VAR . . . . .

                                  Posted by The Outsider on 11/5/2026, 8:29:44, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "
                                  VIP

                                  I have always said that a referral should have to be specific so X was offside. If Y was offside rather than X, referral fails. If X fouls or handballs, the referral fails. There should also be a time limit - say, 15 seconds. If it can't be seen in 15 seconds, it's not a clear and obvious error.

                                    Re: VAR . . . . .

                                    Posted by m on 11/5/2026, 8:42:40, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                                    Spot on here. If it takes 5 minutes to work out then it’s not clear and obvious

                                      Re: VAR . . . . .

                                      Posted by FrednBob on 11/5/2026, 9:24:24, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                                      I don't like VAR. But if you take it away it's not going to stop pundits, managers and fans looking at every decision from 100 different angles and crying about corruption and useless refs every time the most marginal of decisions goes against them.

                                      It doesn't seem fair to take the technology away from refs but then let everyone else judge them with it.

                                      I just don't think we live in a world where VAR can't exist, unfortunately.



                                        Re: VAR . . . . .

                                        Posted by Honey Badger on 11/5/2026, 16:17:06, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                                        Sod what so called expert Gary Neville thinks after he's looked at it 10 times from 6 different angles, the ref doesn't have that luxury.

                                          Re: VAR . . . . .

                                          Posted by The Outsider on 11/5/2026, 9:45:46, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "
                                          VIP

                                          Probably a reason to move to the referral system. As in cricket, if a team has lost its referrals earlier in the game, that is their problem.

                                          Officials may then make more decisions for themselves rather than rely on VAR.

                                            Re: VAR . . . . .

                                            Posted by Vladimir Luton on 11/5/2026, 10:04:01, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                                            The problem with referrals is that every team will review every goal conceded if there are too many challenges available. In NFL a coach gets one per half (i think) and if you fail you lose a timeout, and that challenge can't be used in the last 2 minutes of each half. So there is a jeopardy element to stop frivolous challenges. In tennis and cricket there are so many decisions in every set/innings that you can't waste challenges.
                                            Referrals will only work if you get 1 per game and it can't be used after the 85th minute. So coaches will think twice about automatically challenging every goal conceded. It wouldn't stop what happened yesterday as it was in injury time but the crap with toenails offside and handballs and holding in a goalmouth scramble would stop.

                                              Re: VAR . . . . .

                                              Posted by Gut City Hatter on 11/5/2026, 11:01:13, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "

                                              The most sensible suggestion yesterday came from the MOTD referee expert. He suggested attacking players should not be allowed into the six
                                              yard box until the corner or free kick is actually taken.
                                              This would at least stop the minute or so of rugby scrum which seems to happen every time the ball is played into the box from a standard situation.

                                                Re: VAR . . . . .

                                                Posted by The Outsider on 11/5/2026, 10:50:27, in reply to "Re: VAR . . . . . "
                                                VIP

                                                As I said above, all referrals to be specific to avoid frivolous referrals.

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