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    Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

    Posted by Hatters77 on 23/1/2026, 20:49:16

    Think many (including me) are getting very confused

      Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

      Posted by Round Green Hatter on 24/1/2026, 0:18:20, in reply to "Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

      This is hurting my bollocks. Ollie Kay says he resigned on his podcast and RADSB has resigned on here but RADSB and Ollie are 2 different people? Neither of them are Roger Wash even though I have a memory of RADSB mentioning interviewing Roy Baynam a few years back which Roger did.

      There's the unfortunate problem of me being a thick cunt but as I said my bollocks have a headache and I suspect this is all a simulation.

      Who's the fucking grass?

        Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

        Posted by Garstang Hatter on 24/1/2026, 7:38:06, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

        Re: the Ron Baynham interview, I think there is probably a very simple explanation - more than 1 person was involved. Someone would have gone along to help with the camera(s) and sound. So both of them did it together, in all likelihood.

        Any opinions expressed may not be entirely serious, but are entirely my own and do not represent those of any other person or organisation with whom I may or may not be associated. Forza RADSB!

          Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

          Posted by Earls on 24/1/2026, 7:31:24, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

          Ollie Kay and RADSB both left Hatters Heritage yesterday, and are definitely two different people.
          RADSB is a pensioner whose initials stand for Real Ale Drinking Statto Bloke. I don’t listen to his podcast, but I’m pretty sure none of that applies to Ollie Kay, apart from the Bloke bit.

            Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

            Posted by EastEnder on 24/1/2026, 9:57:55, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

            And Roger Wash is in all probability a Real Ale Drinking Statto Blake, but does not post on here under that name and did not resign from Hatters Heritage yesterday (or the day before).

              Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

              Posted by Earls on 24/1/2026, 10:20:10, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

              Oh yeah. I forgot to clarify he’s neither RADSB nor Ollie Kay. Tbf, if Roger Wash had a Luton podcast, I might listen to that.

            Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

            Posted by Sheff on 24/1/2026, 1:54:53, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

            Top post - Checkles in Shefford

            But, Re your last sentence, I don't think there's actually been a grass, everything that could have been "grassed up" is already in the public domain, it's not like private whatsapp chats have been "leaked"

            Farige is a Complete Tosser

          Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

          Posted by Ian Foie Gras on 23/1/2026, 22:28:02, in reply to "Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

          Who is that podcast guy anyway

          Was he coming when we were in the conference?

            Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

            Posted by Laststraw2 on 23/1/2026, 21:52:42, in reply to "Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

            Real Ale Drinking Statto Bloke could help?

              Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

              Posted by EastEnder on 23/1/2026, 22:26:11, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

              RADSB has been drinking in The Brickies for decades, whereas Ollie Kay turned up there to film a podcast when we were promoted to the Premier League.

              Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

              Posted by EastEnder on 23/1/2026, 21:03:39, in reply to "Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

              No they are 2 different people

              Also - neither of them are Roger Wash

              No, they’re not

              Posted by BoydCrowdersCollar on 23/1/2026, 21:01:33, in reply to "Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

              Ollie - in his Thatcher-esque resignation statement (pre prepared and read for camera as totes emosh) references a name of someone else who resigned who I believe is RADSB

              Ollie used to post on here as James Brie I think

              I hope he’s OK (no pun intended) as his last two podcasts reminded me of Laurence Fox / Graham Linehan in his zealous search for what’s right

                Re: No, they’re not

                Posted by Zobra The Greek on 24/1/2026, 0:02:31, in reply to "No, they’re not "

                Remember when Outlaws all chipped in and we made a flag for locks and raised money for the BHF, and Kay a week later, instead of chipping in and helping promote it decided to do his own one.

                Bit of a ego move.

                  Re: No, they’re not

                  Posted by Doctor Ince on 24/1/2026, 3:19:23, in reply to "Re: No, they’re not "

                  The idea for the flags happened at roughly the same time both on here and discord.

                  The discord one took a little longer due to being a tifo.

                  Re: No, they’re not

                  Posted by EastEnder on 23/1/2026, 21:06:29, in reply to "No, they’re not "

                  Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                  Posted by Music Critic on 23/1/2026, 20:52:45, in reply to "Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                  See the same?

                  Do you mean ARE the same? If you do mean that, no, they are 2 separate people

                  Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                  Posted by Hatters77 on 23/1/2026, 20:52:01, in reply to "Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                  Are the same? Not see the same

                    Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                    Posted by EastEnder on 23/1/2026, 21:09:34, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                    Every MD of any company I have ever worked for has basically been rude to the staff, paid themselves a huge salary and been pulled in lots of different directions at once, leading to staff being pissed off and demotivated.

                    Is there anything on top of this we need to know about?

                      Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                      Posted by RADSB on 23/1/2026, 21:20:42, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                      How is your personal experience relevant? Doctor Ince disagrees anyway. Who on here has worked for him? Have you?

                      Who, apart from retired people, reveal their former bosses issues?

                      Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                        Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                        Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 23/1/2026, 23:44:56, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                        I've worked for Gary. Thought he was basically fine. His foibles and flaws gave junior staff something to gossip about but he was overall a decent boss and a decent leader of the company.

                          Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                          Posted by EastEnder on 23/1/2026, 21:22:33, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                          Why not post something on top of what Gary has done?

                          If you've got the info share it with everyone.

                            Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                            Posted by bbb on 23/1/2026, 23:26:25, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"
                            WUM 2

                            Turn it in M ffs.

                            You know plenty of stuff.

                            And you also know that some things just aren't for here.

                              Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                              Posted by Sheff on 24/1/2026, 0:10:36, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                              "And you also know that some things just aren't for here"

                              That's true.

                              But it allows some to post shit without the need to verify it as true and honest.

                              It's like the village idiot throwing stones at the greenhouse whilst hid behin a 6ft wall

                              Farige is a Complete Tosser

                                Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                Posted by Poster from the past on 24/1/2026, 0:20:02, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                it allows some to post shit without the need to verify it as true and honest.

                                It's like the village idiot throwing stones at the greenhouse whilst hid behin a 6ft wall

                                Is this the same as accusing someone of flirting with casual racism and Islamophobia but then when asked by that person if they could please provide examples of flirting with casual racism and to state precisely why they think the person is Islamophobic then ignores those questions?

                                outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                                  Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                  Posted by Sheff on 24/1/2026, 0:47:55, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                  Oh dear, you're not going to let this go are you.

                                  I asked AI (the same you were happy to use in one of your posts) this question -


                                  Is insinuating that an asian man is a restaurant owner racist

                                  And surely you can't deny this is exactly what you did??

                                  The AI that you have been happy to use came up with this answer . . .

                                  Yes, insinuating that an Asian man is a restaurant owner can be considered racist because it relies on a pervasive ethnic and occupational stereotype.

                                  While some Asian individuals do own restaurants, assuming this is their profession solely based on their race is a generalization that minimizes the diversity of their actual professions and experiences.
                                  This type of casual racism or unconscious bias can be harmful for several reasons:
                                  It reinforces stereotypes:
                                  It reduces an individual to a stereotype rather than seeing them as a complete person with unique experiences, skills, and careers.
                                  It has historical roots in discrimination: The prevalence of Chinese restaurants in the U.S., for example, is partly a result of historical immigration laws (like the Chinese Exclusion Act era, which exempted restaurateurs) that forced many Chinese immigrants into this specific line of work, making the association a sensitive topic with a history of constraint, not just choice.
                                  It can be demeaning: Such assumptions can make Asian individuals feel undervalued or like an "other," reinforcing the idea that their primary role in a Western society is to serve or run a specific type of business. It contributes to the "model minority" myth:
                                  By pigeonholing Asian people into a few specific, often service-oriented or highly technical (e.g., doctor, programmer) roles, it ignores the vast range of socioeconomic realities and struggles within the diverse Asian American community.

                                  Now, stop argueing with me and go and argue with Google's AI.

                                  btw, from other post's I've seen of yours I don't think for a minute you are one of those EDL/Farage/Reform racists. You were just a bit lazy in trying to find a humourous way to make your point regarding Yousuf Sajjad's record as player recruitment manager.

                                  Befor you reply try typing this in to google.

                                  Was I being racist by insinuating an asian man is a restaurant owner

                                  As I said, don't argue with me, complain to Google.

                                  Farige is a Complete Tosser

                                    Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                    Posted by Poster from the past on 24/1/2026, 1:52:24, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                    I won't let it go no because I disagree with it and I won't accept those accusations from you. If you are going to make those kinds of accusations then you should be big enough to enter into discussion about them at the very least. You can't blame Google when you have independently stated them as your own opinion of me. That's side stepping self accountability. Own it if that's what you think, don't pass the buck.

                                    The restaurant post was an admittedly shit joke. I have no problem with accepting that. I've already agreed with J in C that it was crass.

                                    I completely and utterly disagree that it was racist for the following reasons.

                                    At no point whatsoever did I intend it to be racist. I appreciate this might not be believed by you or others but I know it. As this can't necessarily be believed I will go further.

                                    Was it accidentally racist? I don't think so but I accept that some people will believe it was racist, and I am including you in that because you have literally said that. However I disagree with you and anyone else that thinks that.

                                    The restaurant industry itself is representative of all races. It isn't an industry that is exclusively Asian. If the head of recruitment happened to be black or white would that same metaphor have been classed as racist by you? I doubt it, perhaps you would be so kind to confirm one way or the other? As previously mentioned I don't see people as belonging to a race anyway. I see other people as human beings and I treat everyone the same on that basis. I find it a bit counterintuitive that supposed non-racists sometimes do the exact opposite of that and seek to put people into different categories of race. How on earth do you define race anyway? It's a very odd idea and prone to massive problems. Far easier and makes a lot more sense to me to simply treat everyone as a human and leave it at that.

                                    Also last night you claimed I was associating anyone with an Asian name as being specifically an Indian restaurant owner, despite the fact that the food in the joke wasn't Indian food. In my opinion you have shoe-horned the Indian restaurant idea into your own version of events to fit in with your own (mistaken in my opinion) narrative on what that joke was about. This is a big jump from fact to not fact and is important to highlight as I believe it betrays your unconscious bias towards me regarding your belief it was a racist post.

                                    Unfortunately I think the left (in politics) has been infiltrated by people who go down this line and undermine what the left used to represent. I have always been left leaning in my politics but I no longer feel that association as closely anymore because of the ludicrous behaviour of people such as yourself who see racism that was never intended or ever there. You create problems out of thin air and then don't have the decency to admit it. Instead you dig your heels in.

                                    Having said all this I agree there is a lot of racism. That is the hard truth. I doubt it will ever go away. That is another hard truth. I think genuine racism should be challenged. I don't think racism is exclusive to any single group/race towards any other. I think someone of any race is capable of racism. It's really pointless in my opinion therefore to hone in on things like my shit restaurant joke as racist because firstly it isn't so it's wasted energy, but secondly because that energy is now diverted away from confronting actual real racism. That's really important to highlight. Why spend time confronting someone for supposedly littering because they didn't notice a tissue fell out of their pocket which they will happily pick up and go on their way when told about, whilst simultaneously ignoring someone getting beaten up because of their race a few feet away? It doesn't make any sense at all. Focus on actual real racism.

                                    Moving on to your accusation of Islamophobia. I don't believe Islam should be above criticism. I want to ask you if you agree with me about that. I've thought about it and this for me is the root of my concern with Islam. If it was possible to criticise it without being branded Islamophobic I think that would be fine but unfortunately in many instances this isn't the case. You seem to think I don't understand that within Islam there are rogue characters. I do understand that. I think the issue we disagree with is whether or not those people ought to be considered as following Islam or not. I think it's possible they can be considered to be following Islam whereas I think, from what you have said in your posts over the last couple of days, that you don't. Please correct me if I am wrong about that. But that is the basis of why I think you are quite naive. It's as if you think Islam itself is perfect and can't be in any way responsible or contributing in any way towards the issues of human rights abuses. Yes obviously human rights abuses occur outside of Islamic environments. I'm not disputing that. I am saying Islamic environments also have human rights abuses and to a certain extent some interpretations (be they correct interpretations or not) of Islam can excaurbate those human rights abuses. Perfect example of that is the situation in Iran right now.

                                    You already seem too fatigued to want to discuss this any further. But I think that is a cop out if you decide to disengage now on both the casual racism and Islamophobia accusations you have made. It's irresponsible to make those accusations and then avoid accountability for doing so. I sincerely hope you have the decency to continue discussing this and would politely ask you to do so, by answering the questions I have asked of you in this post.

                                    I don't think we are that different really, I think we both believe in treating people with decency but we have different ideas about the best way to do that.

                                    Cheers.

                                    outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                              Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                              Posted by RADSB on 23/1/2026, 21:28:37, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                              Why the game? You know as much as me, if not more. But for some reason you are ignoring it. So why ask?

                              Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                                Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                Posted by Trondheim Hatter on 23/1/2026, 22:56:15, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                First of all, thank you for all your work on HH, It is much appriciated.

                                If you have a problem with GS and 2020, why not just put it all out in the open and sunlight instead of all this hidden innuendo and secret IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW comments. Get it out in the open and let us know what your experience was?

                                  Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                  Posted by RADSB on 23/1/2026, 23:09:23, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                  Not as simple as that. Fictitious court case title for you -

                                  Infiniate Resources Limited v Mr beat up working class pensioner.

                                  What do you think the result would be?

                                  Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                                    Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                    Posted by Trondheim Hatter on 24/1/2026, 0:27:10, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                    Well maybe you can start by explaning what comment you made that was so bad that you were told to leave? Surely since you said it, and they reacted to it, that part of the story is true for both parties? Or was whatever you said so off key that the organization had no choice but to let you leave?

                                    Unless you are lying or do not have evidence to prove whatever you are claiming you will not get sued.

                                      Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                      Posted by RADSB on 24/1/2026, 8:43:31, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                      Perhaps I'm being over cautious but maybe not having worked in the Ministry of Justice for over 30 years where I've seen it all. You have seen my comments on here - recruitment, PC, money to PC, Parachute payments. Anything outrageous that you have seen?

                                      As many have said on here in the last few days, they have seen nothing of note from me which could have caused this to happen - but it has happened.

                                      Anyway its done. I'm gone, so HH can move forward.

                                      Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                                      Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                      Posted by Sheff on 24/1/2026, 0:07:31, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                      "Infiniate Resources Limited v Mr beat up working class pensioner."

                                      This will surely only happen if you post something that isn't true/accurate?

                                      Farige is a Complete Tosser

                                        Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                        Posted by RADSB on 24/1/2026, 8:50:05, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                        Not at all. Having worked in the courts I've seen many cases. It's me being over cautious I know, but there it is. But I'm gone, it's done and HH is fine and that's all that matters.

                                        Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                                          Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                          Posted by RM on 24/1/2026, 8:32:35, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                          Did you miss the recent post office scandle?????

                                  Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                  Posted by EastEnder on 23/1/2026, 21:22:33, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                  Why not post something on top of what Gary has done?

                                  If you've got the info share it with everyone.

                                  Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                  Posted by Music Critic on 23/1/2026, 21:14:57, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                  Bloody hell, you've been unlucky with MDs

                                  Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?

                                  Posted by Doctor Ince on 23/1/2026, 21:11:54, in reply to "Re: Can someone clarify if Ollie Kay and RADSB see the same?"

                                  Perhaps it's just good luck for me then, but every MD I've had has been unfailing polite to all.

                                  Perhaps a little abrupt if you've fucked something up, but not rude in general.

                                  They do have to have a certain ruthlessness though, of course

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