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    Worse display by a Luton captain?

    Posted by Cuba on 19/10/2025, 8:45:33

    Can’t think of any worse than that Naismith yesterday.

    Even called out explicitly by Luke on 3CR post match as how bad he was.

    In the second half his body language was atrocious, when he could be bothered to run he ran into a Mansfield player and when he had the ball be just gave it away time and time again.

    He didn’t step in an intervene when Wells and Gideon were arguing about who was taking the penalty.

    He was not vocal or showed any leadership in trying to recover from the second goal

    Have to question, like so many others, what has happened to him/them, how can previously decent players seem so lazy and indifferent.

    We know what a proper captain and leader looks like, why has the club allowed those leaders (Locks, Bez, Pelly etc) to go without replacing with someone with more character.

    Throwing out this now, would Nigel Clough (let alone his father) work for club that has developed such a deep rooted egocentricity?


      Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

      Posted by Hoofit on 19/10/2025, 11:35:52, in reply to "Worse display by a Luton captain?"

      I never wanted Naismith back. Dined out on that Bournemouth goal for ages and before he went to Bristol City his performances for us were dire.

        Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

        Posted by Zobra The Greek on 19/10/2025, 8:56:26, in reply to "Worse display by a Luton captain?"

        You want to fire the manager after one game?

        I suppose that is quite on brand for you.

          Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

          Posted by Cuba on 19/10/2025, 8:59:39, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

          WTAF? Where did I say that?

          The comment at the end is about the culture that has developed.

          Getting rid of leaders and allowing the lazy, greedy culture to develop. Perhaps created unconsciously by focusing just on PC.

          JW and his team need to challenge this culture and fix it.

          Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

          Posted by J in C on 19/10/2025, 8:50:08, in reply to "Worse display by a Luton captain?"
          WUM

          Don't be daft


          Into the valley of death rode J in C

            Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

            Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 8:49:16, in reply to "Worse display by a Luton captain?"

            nigel clough?!?

            the man who has had a less than mediocre managerial career in the lower echelons of english football?

              Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

              Posted by Cuba on 19/10/2025, 8:52:27, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

              Had you seen the league table Pingu????

              Clough did what was required yesterday, set up a very attractive hard working team and barked instructions for 95 minutes without any show, gamesmanship or aggression.

              If JW needed inspiration on how he needs to manage he could do a damn sight worse.


                Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 9:01:50, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                yeah but clough!! hes one useless manager!!

                  Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                  Posted by Ramridge Raider on 19/10/2025, 9:04:51, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                  I'm actually finding myself agreeing more with Cuba as the season goes on, which in itself is a bit of a worry.....

                  He does have a point about a seasoned, experienced manager.

                    Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                    Posted by Madpig on 19/10/2025, 9:39:29, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                    Beware...the Chillie Meister will turn on you ☝️

                      Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                      Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 9:09:27, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                      id rather a pun on wilshere than a horrendous well seasoned manager like clough.

                        Course correct….

                        Posted by Cuba on 19/10/2025, 9:30:23, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                        My post was not about JW or Nigel Clough.

                        It was about the culture of the club being able to develop as it has that has created the opportunity for such laziness and poor attitudes to go unchecked.

                        The buck stops with the CEO.

                        Until this is addressed I seriously worry how we progress.

                        My original point was whether a more experienced manager than RE and MB would have allowed this to develop.

                          Re: Course correct….

                          Posted by J in C on 19/10/2025, 9:33:48, in reply to "Course correct…."
                          WUM

                          Buck stops with the football side not the CEO

                          But if you want his job apply for it


                          Into the valley of death rode J in C

                            Re: Course correct….

                            Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 9:33:05, in reply to "Course correct…."

                            you made a comparison to clough. that warranted a response about clough.

                              Re: Course correct….

                              Posted by Cuba on 19/10/2025, 9:47:54, in reply to "Re: Course correct…."

                              Fair enough I did, but the context was about whether “the Cloughs” would have allowed such a deep rooted egocentricity to develop.

                              I know you are thousands of miles away now and don’t get to suffer the toothless football we are enduring in the flesh, it is as most are saying the worse football most of has ever paid to watch.

                                Re: Course correct….

                                Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 9:49:45, in reply to "Re: Course correct…."

                                brian clough - likely not.

                                sometimes it pays to be far away from it……

                            Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                            Posted by Ostrich spotter on 19/10/2025, 9:23:04, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                            And yet a well seasoned Manager like Clough with a very tiny budget and allegedly lesser players got those players playing like a team and beat us with ease. How many your players looked better than their Mansfield counterparts?

                              Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                              Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 9:29:23, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                              he beat bloomfield’s completely inept team - agree.

                              give wilshere a bloody chance!

                                Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                Posted by Madpig on 19/10/2025, 14:03:33, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                That's a must, he's picked up the poison chalice.

                                  Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                  Posted by PaddyHatter on 19/10/2025, 9:36:16, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                  I'm 100% up for supporting JW and co for the whole of this season. Can you remember a harder watch in the past 15 years? We all need to have a decent drink or two before facing it. I stopped drinking in January and it isn't helping.

                                    Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                    Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 9:42:04, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                    itll take time, probably longer than we expected/ wanted.

                                      Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                      Posted by Madpig on 19/10/2025, 14:04:47, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                      Five seasons to get back in the Championship, unless we get two more relegations

                                        Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                        Posted by PaddyHatter on 19/10/2025, 10:04:27, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                        Agreed! Just so fed up with it all. Even J in C is proving too much for me today.

                                          Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                          Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 10:14:23, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                          he lightens the mood bless him!

                                          Forza James

                                            Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                            Posted by PaddyHatter on 19/10/2025, 10:21:34, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                            Yes, I'm going to leave him be. It's my crappy mood. I wouldn't normally bite ! I'm too old to let my football club annoy me like this surely ?????

                                              Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                              Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 10:25:38, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                              🧡🧡🧡

                                              ups and downs.

                                              as ronan keating said: life is a roller coaster.

                                              Forza bbb

                                  Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                  Posted by Ramridge Raider on 19/10/2025, 9:16:39, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                  Hoping you're right mate, but I have a horrible feeling about this season and not sure a lad with 2 years management experience of an under 18 side is going to be able to deal with it.

                                    Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                    Posted by pingu on 19/10/2025, 9:09:41, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                    punt*

                                      Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                      Posted by PaddyHatter on 19/10/2025, 9:18:53, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"

                                      I know what you're saying Pingu and I feel the same way. However I think the possibility of this going further horribly wrong is really high.

                                  Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                  Posted by J in C on 19/10/2025, 9:02:26, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"
                                  WUM

                                  Well noted parmo lover


                                  Into the valley of death rode J in C

                                Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?

                                Posted by J in C on 19/10/2025, 8:50:48, in reply to "Re: Worse display by a Luton captain?"
                                WUM

                                And that's far too generous Pingu


                                Into the valley of death rode J in C

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