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Matts comfort with experience
Posted by E5 Hat on 2/10/2025, 5:46:36
Both Lincoln and Blackpool away he opts for more experience players to add some stability. But against powerful, quick opposition we look blunt up top and so slow in the centre of defence. How the coaches didn’t see that as a potential issue is puzzling…
Doesn’t have a great amount of actual choice at the moment with 12 out of action. It’s not easy to watch at the moment but when we have more personnel available it has to get better or, surely, Bloomer is gone.
Sorry to be negative..I cannot remember a period in christ knows how long when a full squad is available...ok..so you get a couple back but couple more go sick..An inevitable situation when recruiting players with injury..or previous history..
What, like most brilliant businesses do? Delegate executive leadership and functions according to skillset and experience?
Nah, not Luton.
The time to do it was before we got promoted. With all the changes to the Kenny, PC on the horizon and going into a new level of football/funding, an executive football appointment was desperately needed. Perhaps then we wouldn’t have so many injuries, we wouldn’t have God awful recruitment each window and we wouldn’t have a rookie manager struggling or even a rookie manager at all.
So shxt football going to impress enough to fill the stadium..I don't think so..Inevitable conclusion stadium built..new investors required to fund it all..Move in with a decent team in decent league income will follow..not league 1
but when we have more personnel available it has to get better or, surely, Bloomer is gone
And then what? 2020s record of managerial appointments is, being generous, not very good. So, the chances are we will get someone else who is not very good
I'm not giving up on Bloomfield yet, by the way, despite some strange decisions. I think he has an injury-prone, unbalanced, incohesive squad* and it's about par that we have 16 points based on that
*I realise he may or may not have had input into that
Let's just hope we're talking about Bloomfield being a success this time next year, with us back mid-table in the C'ship, and we can all say 'well done 2020' for that appt
I like him. I want him to do well - for his benefit and for ours
Partially true, but sometimes situations become so critical that only an experienced head can cope with the pressure and responsibility.
We are not there yet, and hopefully it won't happen, but say come December we are closer to the bottom than the top then the environment becomes so poisonous that only experience can stop the rot.
Agree. We do like a 'wacky' appointment. Worked with Jones. Not with the other Jones.
I thought, in January, we might have gone in for David Wagner who, while not a huge success at Norwich, was an older head who knows the C'ship
The early mistakes (Money, Brabin, Buckle, etc) were more understandable as the club was a mess and 2020 were doing lots of firefighting and restructuring to get the finances on an even keel. That was more important as they had taken over a shambles
The one experienced manager appointed was Sir John Still - we can talk about his non league attributes all day. It worked and he got us out of the Conference. But he stayed too long as did RE. That's a failure.
But to your point - in January it was crying out for an experienced manager like Warnock to knock it all down, rebuild confidence, adjust, tweak and get the best out of the team to survive. January was not the time for another edgy/wacky appointment - and to interview only MB was a mistake too. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
Well never know this but I do think any experienced manager would have been able to grind out more results that Bloomfield was able to do, particularly in the early days and WBA away.
Bloomfield always gives me the impression that he's 'learning on the job'. Probably not what was required in a relegation dogfight.
Agree about a Colin-like appointment, even just for 6 months to steady things and keep us up.
But can you imagine if they didn’t get the players they wanted in January and results went badly? You’d have someone like Warnock on the media calling out the recruitment, the refs etc, blaming everyone but himself. Maybe the club and players needed that in a way. That 'us against the world' mentality.
It took us too long to get going under Matt. He very nearly got us there, of course. The whole season was a clusterfuck.
There was no new manager bounce with MB. I've said it before, and some did not agree, but MB walking thru the door with ColU and Wycombe on his CV could not have impressed all the players. A Warnock type would have commanded instant respect and I'm sure results would have improved straight away. Certainly the atmosphere at games with Warnock would have been superb with away fans hating him.
Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
Wouldn't have necessarily wanted the actual Warnock but someone like him would have been good.
Actually, saying that, Warnock would have been funny and entertaining and would have probably got us out of the shit. After all the stick he used to get at Luton that would have been a strange twist of fate
Looking at the long term is good and sensible, of course, but we needed some short-term thinking at that point and, yeah, we went 'clever' and edgy again
Yes Warnock type manager. But Warnock himself would have been great as he would put all the pressure on himself and take it away, as much as you can, from the players. His knowledge of players available would have helped and he definately would have solved the captain/leadership on the pitch problem. He is a bit arsy too as us fans have been described more than once. So it might have been a good partnership. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
Would have certainly been fun to see it play out with Warnock
But, yeah, we're arsey, so's he. It might have worked. And you're totally right that he would have heaped the pressure and attention on himself and got it off the players as much as he was able to. He's a twat but also a good leader
I can understand why that decision wasn't made but it would have been a good laugh
I disagree that we needed an old head, tbh. We all know how fucked the club was by the time Edwards finally left. I think Bloomfield did extremely well to (eventually, granted) reverse the shocking state Edwards had left us in. Warnock was great for years, clearly, but he’d messed up his recent jobs as he’s become about building his brand, not being a manager: he’s touring and doing the London Palladium! I get a Warner/Robbins type, sure. But, again, Bloomfield was so nearly the right man last season. A valid question is where has that momentum gone? I suspect Bloomfield is frustrated by the level of recruitment - it’s playing out identically to Edwards’ poor post-Prem start in that regard. But for those saying Bloomfield doesn’t have the players’ respect, look at the fight on display in the last 20 minutes v Blackpool: thet wasn’t a manager who’s lost the dressing room.
I think Bloomfield will go on to become a good manager. It might not be at Luton, though.
I just think it was the right man at the wrong time when we appointed him and said so at the time
So nearly being the right man doesn't cut it in the ruthless world of professional sport. Bottom line is we were relegated. I think a wise old head would have been the right call. Or, maybe ask Bloomfield if he wanted that support for 4 months. Maybe they did and he said 'no'
I agree with your point on recruitment and momentum
I don't think he has lost the dressing room or anything like that and, as I say elsewhere on this thread, he needs more time. But he hasn't got heaps of time. If it doesn't work out, then as RR says, we really will be in a bad way
We’ll never know, but my point was that “so nearly” is better than most managers would have done last season, experienced or not. You might be right that Bloomfield will possibly only be a good manager elsewhere but, per Edwards at Middlesbrough, I’m fairly certain Bloomfield will indeed do well elsewhere. I hope he does well here too first!
Does it matter? I'm talking about Luton. I know other clubs have poor records too but I don't care about them
But that's exactly my argument. Very little point in getting shot of Bloomfield at this very moment because it is a tough decision. One that 2020 have often got wrong. Not a criticism. It's an observation
But since you ask - Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth
Lower down the food chain, clubs like West Brom that we should be aspiring to compete with seem to get it more right than wrong. Burnley, Coventry, Millwall
As I say, it's really difficult but the club have got it more wrong than right down the years
My point is that you suggested that 2020's record at picking managers is pretty bad. I'm going to suggest that it is at worst average and our performance over the years they have been in reflects that.
The last three permanent appointments have all won promotions, the three before that got us to second in the conference followed by a couple of play-off finals. This is well above average.
Now that second part isn't "great" but given that we, at times, were up against the likes of those Crawley and Fleetwood teams I'm going to suggest "average" is not being overly-generous compared to the teams we have competed against which I think is the correct overall benchmark to use.
True, but I'm arguing that 2020s manager picking is not as bad as MC (and plenty of others) suggest. Not that it is great or wonderful, but it's really not that bad. Picking odd clubs that are better or worse doesn't really make any odds.
It is not rocket science, the players that came on against Blackpool were better, hungrier, more athletic and had more passion ( especially based on Kudua's reaction to gaining and scoring the penalty). If only some of the permanent's showed the same
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