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    Isn't a large part of the problem...

    Posted by Poster from the past on 22/9/2025, 15:28:03

    That bang average players now get paid small fortunes each week? How are they supposed to be motivated if they get paid for failing week in week out? They're also probably on a lot more than most of the fanbase. So when they get dogs abuse off of someone in the crowd they probably just think fuck it, he doesn't deserve my best effort, plus he's a peasant and I am getting paid anyway. Maybe I will claim I'm injured, I fancy a couple of weeks off.

    Football is completely up it's own arse now and there's too much money going in the wrong direction from normal people to people who are already millionaires or well on the way to becoming one despite not being very good.

    There seems to be an awful lot of over precious players these days as well. Definitely due in large part to the over paid-ness of everyone in the game now, but I think also because we are starting to see Gen Z coming through as well. They have different attitudes and expectations to those from older generations.

    And let's be honest, football is only good when we win. The rest of the time, as Bigmeup used to say, it feels like being in an abusive relationship.


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      Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

      Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 22/9/2025, 16:41:09, in reply to "Isn't a large part of the problem..."

      If you think football is only good when we're winning you should be following Liverpool or Citeh. And when they have a protacted dip in form switch to the latest Arab or US funded outfit.

        Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

        Posted by Poster from the past on 22/9/2025, 16:42:28, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

        40 years of following Luton and hopefully a few more decades to go yet. Bigmeup was right though.


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          Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

          Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 22/9/2025, 16:47:48, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

          Over 55, many ups and downs but wouldn't change it

            Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

            Posted by Poster from the past on 22/9/2025, 16:53:39, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

            I always get optimistic in between games. But Saturday was a low point during the match. It reminds me of the way we were prior to John Still's appointment. Shocking performances all over the pitch. Really not looking forward to losing to Stevenage!


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              Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

              Posted by Ramridge Raider on 22/9/2025, 17:37:35, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

              I was just walking the dog and thinking this season is becoming a little bit reminiscent of Buckle's last season.

              I really hope we don't have to go through something like that again.

        Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

        Posted by Buzzard on 22/9/2025, 16:13:58, in reply to "Isn't a large part of the problem..."

        Nah. it's 3 at the back with too many players playing out of position.

          Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

          Posted by Kenny Powers on 22/9/2025, 15:59:32, in reply to "Isn't a large part of the problem..."

          It’s because we’ve signed shit characters with average talent - because our recruitment team are totally out of their depth.

          Under Nathan we signed talented lads with good character. That’s what made us so strong.

          Feel sorry for Jordan Clark. The last of a decent bunch. No wonder he’s miserable.

          If we don’t sack the recruitment team - and the bloke who hired them and makes all the calls - we are screwed. Doesnt matter who the manager is.

            Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

            Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 22/9/2025, 16:45:05, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

            Yep Clark is like the last man standing in the Tory party. He's going to defect at the next opportunity.

              Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

              Posted by bbb on 22/9/2025, 16:27:37, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

              Best post since Saturday. 👏👏

                Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                Posted by PHS on 22/9/2025, 16:22:28, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                "Under Nathan we signed talented lads with good character. That’s what made us so strong."

                It hasn't gone unnoticed that many of those particular characters are still plying their trade to very decent standards: Bradley, Collins, Burke, Bree, Burke, Berry, Stacey and Clark (despite what some may think about him - nay bad for a freebie!)

                I know I'm getting forgetful in my old age but I'm struggling to recall any games where any of that little lot needed revving up by the manager or his team of coaches before they started playing properly. Jeez, we've had some very decent 100%ers at our disposal in the past.

                  Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                  Posted by Kenny Powers on 22/9/2025, 16:30:29, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                  And not forgetting Pelly, JJ, Shea, Moncur, Pearson, Danny H, McCormack, Cornick, Glen Rea, Sheehan…

                  Nathan made a point of recruiting good lads. Blokes who got it. Strong characters who worked their bollocks off. Got what it takes to be Luton.

                  You can’t compare the current lot to Nathan’s squads. Not fit to clean their boots.

                    Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                    Posted by Poster from the past on 22/9/2025, 16:27:59, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                    Agreed


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                    Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                    Posted by Poster from the past on 22/9/2025, 16:07:46, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                    Do you know that for a fact or are you speculating?

                    I agree our recruitment has been pretty shit since half way through the Prem.

                    I can't help wondering what the actual cause of that is though?

                    Whilst it pains me to say it, Stevenage are a good example that you don't need to bust the bank to get decent results.

                    And I still say we should sign Bobby Pointon from Bradford.


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                      Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                      Posted by Kenny Powers on 22/9/2025, 16:16:24, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                      It’s common knowledge and yes I do know. If you need more proof watch Jordan Clark’s post match interview. Shameful state of affairs.

                        Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                        Posted by Poster from the past on 22/9/2025, 16:20:00, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                        Meh, that isn't exactly conclusive evidence mate


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                          Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                          Posted by Wakefield Hatter on 22/9/2025, 16:33:14, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                          I don't think Saville is a holding midfielder, we need someone next to him, other than clicker and Nelson, there both easily knocked off the ball, I would push Naismith in there.

                          Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                          Posted by Kenny Powers on 22/9/2025, 16:31:47, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                          Open your eyes pal. The proof is out there on the pitch.

                            Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                            Posted by Poster from the past on 22/9/2025, 16:41:17, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                            Agreed recruitment has been poor, but still don't know why. You have speculated the recruitment team are out of their depth but haven't offered any evidence of that other than the performances on the pitch. I'm saying maybe the recruitment team have their hands tied? I'm tempted to agree with you but would prefer to know for certain what is going on.


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                              Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                              Posted by Kenny Powers on 22/9/2025, 16:59:19, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                              Do you need to know why? It’s their job - and the CEO’s - to recruit a squad capable of performing. They haven’t despite way more cash than Nathan had. They’re a failure across every metric. Get rid and start again. If not, we’re fucked.

                                Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                                Posted by m on 22/9/2025, 17:10:44, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                                If you include Gdobe or whatever his name is. We’ve signed 5 centre forwards since January !! And we’ve still got 2 injured

                                  Re: Isn't a large part of the problem...

                                  Posted by Godders on 22/9/2025, 19:26:52, in reply to "Re: Isn't a large part of the problem..."

                                  ...and they still can't score from open play.


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