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    Bloomfield

    Posted by Herts Hatter on 14/8/2025, 9:47:03

    When considered that at the depths of Rob ball we were as bad as any team both defensively and attacking wise you have to give MB credit for making us look a decent defensive unit. Attacking wise we are still poor but at least there is some green shoots. Positively I do like the fact that he is willing to change things both before and during games and less given to mindless favouritism. Obviously we are missing attacking quality which is acknowledged but when you compare to Rob ball at least we can sort of keep possession for 2 or 3 phases in the opposition half which is a start. I really hope MB pushes 20/20 on signing at least one more attacking minded player as I know we are tight arses (for good reason) - I do feel that top 6 in L1 is there for the taking

      Re: Bloomfield

      Posted by Buzzard on 14/8/2025, 15:20:05, in reply to "Bloomfield"

      We have literally played 2 games. I don't recall John Still teams blasting out of the box, not Jones' to be honest.

      Give it time

        Re: Bloomfield

        Posted by Zobra The Greek on 14/8/2025, 16:57:18, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

        What a novel idea.

        Re: Bloomfield

        Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 14/8/2025, 11:30:55, in reply to "Bloomfield"

        He had a big job to do in turning the team around, apart from Clark the PL team has been replaced. I'll judge him in a few months.

          Re: Bloomfield

          Posted by J in C on 14/8/2025, 9:57:05, in reply to "Bloomfield"
          Sarah

          How can you judge our attacking is poor after 2 straight wins and an unlucky 2nd string teams defeat in the cup.


          Coach

          Legend

            Re: Bloomfield

            Posted by Kbot on 14/8/2025, 10:44:38, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

            Because of the three scored one was an own goal, the second from a centre back and the third was a give away by their defence. I’ll take the six points but nothing from open play doesn’t fill me with confidence. It needs correcting and we don’t have long to recruit a LWB and CF (and sell Nordas😁

              Re: Bloomfield

              Posted by Melbourne Hat on 14/8/2025, 10:48:29, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

              Nordas has to feel pretty disillusioned with how it's played out for him with us. It's not his fault at all. Feel a bit sorry for him TBH.

              Maybe he should be loaned out to someone in L2, or to someone back in Norway?

                Re: Bloomfield

                Posted by The Outsider on 14/8/2025, 10:57:45, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"
                VIP

                If he goes back to Norway on loan, I think that their season ends in November.

                  Re: Bloomfield

                  Posted by Melbourne Hat on 14/8/2025, 10:58:36, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                  Good point!

                  L2 it is then.

            Re: Bloomfield

            Posted by Earls on 14/8/2025, 9:53:09, in reply to "Bloomfield"

            That’s fair, though to your last point Bloomfield has already made it clear we’re after another attacker, and the Al-Habidi rumour has resurfaced again.
            The WBA capitulation aside, I don’t think any of our recent troubles can be put at Bloomfield’s door. Sure, there might be tactics tinkering to be done, but at least we’re now at the tinkering stage, rather than the “What the fuck is this?” period of later Edwards.

              Re: Bloomfield

              Posted by Newton on 14/8/2025, 10:50:39, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

              WBA was a significant blot on his copybook - he got selection wrong, having also done so (but got away with it) against Coventry.

              Aside from that, I think he's done an impressive job. We were absolute toast when he took over and were a goal away from staying up. We look extremely solid so far this season (as we should, with the calibre of DCs at the club). If (big if) we can sign Al-Hamadi and so have a clinical edge up front then I struggle to see how there are two clubs this season that get more points than us.

                Re: Bloomfield

                Posted by Well on 14/8/2025, 10:53:35, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                That’s a brave call.

                I’m not struggling.

                One of us has it wrong for sure.

                  Re: Bloomfield

                  Posted by Newton on 14/8/2025, 11:58:26, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                  I agree that Huddersfield and Stockport look strong, and I suspect that they, along with us, are the top 3. I just feel that, if you start from a base of being unlikely to conceded more than 1 goal in many games, it's hard not to accumulate points, particularly if you've got strikers who don't need many chances to score.

                    Re: Bloomfield

                    Posted by Well on 14/8/2025, 12:11:34, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                    Yer maybe.

                    80% of the teams in this league are tosh.

                      Re: Bloomfield

                      Posted by bbb on 14/8/2025, 14:01:45, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                      +1

                      We always agree.

                        Re: Bloomfield

                        Posted by Newton on 14/8/2025, 12:43:56, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                        Exactly. I think we might be one of those teams that the poorer sides can't really get at, so we end up with lots of 1-0s, 2-0s. We may not entertain our way to promotion, but I suspect we will get there.

                  Re: Bloomfield

                  Posted by Melbourne Hat on 14/8/2025, 10:20:10, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                  Another striker is essential. Nordas is not it.

                  Al-Hamadi would be a great signing, but do you think he will want to drop down to L1? Rumoured to be between us, Cardiff or Charlton, but who the feck really knows.

                  Ipswich are about to sign another striker on loan from Spain so it would appear that Al-Habadi could well be on the way out soon.

                  Also, can we have a LB and RB too please.

                    Re: Bloomfield

                    Posted by Mayor of Rudebury on 14/8/2025, 11:17:12, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                    Predictable that Errol the Gerbil would be targeting a Luton target again.

                    Obsession.

                      Re: Bloomfield

                      Posted by Farhat on 14/8/2025, 10:41:34, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                      They're also selling Nathan Broadhead to Wrexham.....

                      Re: Bloomfield

                      Posted by Earls on 14/8/2025, 10:26:24, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                      Whether or not we get Al-Hamadi - and I suspect The Nathan Jones Powerpoint Experience will win out - at least we’re showing intent. Woodrow and Brown aren’t good enough, so let’s see what happens with Al-Hamadi/Plan B.
                      And yes please too to a LB, sure.

                        Re: Bloomfield

                        Posted by Sandgrounder on 14/8/2025, 11:57:52, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                        Some of his time at Wycombe overlapped with Matt Bloomfield so maybe there is some connection there

                          Re: Bloomfield

                          Posted by Cuba on 14/8/2025, 10:57:43, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                          If we want a goal scoring target man then there is a ready made solution in League 2 who would be an ideal Plan B

                            Re: Bloomfield

                            Posted by The Outsider on 14/8/2025, 11:07:22, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"
                            VIP

                            If anyone else had suggested signing Cheek, you would have moaned about the idea of signing someone who will be 34 next week when we have just signed a 35 year old up to play front.

                              Re: Bloomfield

                              Posted by Cuba on 14/8/2025, 11:13:10, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                              I suggested this post Boreham Wood, having watched Nordas squander countless chances against a team of trialists.

                              Cheek has looked after himself, is very two footed and gets countless assists as well as goals

                              If we can’t get AHH then I’d much sooner Cheek than an unproven 20 year old from the same division.

                                Re: Bloomfield

                                Posted by Mayor of Rudebury on 14/8/2025, 11:19:00, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                We don’t need another old-timer.

                                Are you Kevin Blackwell?

                                  Re: Bloomfield

                                  Posted by Cuba on 14/8/2025, 11:24:43, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                  IMHO we need the best players we can get to achieve promotion.

                                  Cheek, based on a long track record, will score and create more goals than Nordas irrespective of age.

                                    Re: Bloomfield

                                    Posted by Mayor of Rudebury on 14/8/2025, 11:48:25, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                    Fair point.

                                    But I can’t believe we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point. We still have a Poundstretcher mindset.

                              Re: Bloomfield

                              Posted by Well on 14/8/2025, 11:02:00, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                              He is a fox in the box type.

                              Our issue is we don’t create chances so we need a powerful runner.

                              In my opinion.

                                Re: Bloomfield

                                Posted by Earls on 14/8/2025, 11:00:06, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                I meant a Plan B as a first-choice option, but I agree Cheek could be a good cheapish option in addition if Woodrow and Nordas both go.

                                  Re: Bloomfield

                                  Posted by Melbourne Hat on 14/8/2025, 11:04:00, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                  Probably end up with Gbode while Al Hamadi joins the Nathan Jones experience in South London.

                                Re: Bloomfield

                                Posted by Melbourne Hat on 14/8/2025, 10:36:52, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                Are we showing intent with this though? I'm not sure if this rumour is just more agent driven bullshit, dropping LTFC into the mix because it is externally preceived that we have a bit of cash to splash around.

                                Loads of rumours whirled around for Lowe, Kelman, Kone and Dodgson. None of which happened.

                                Also rumours for Shayden Morris and Ronan Hale and they haven't happened either. (Yet...?)

                                Feel that most signings we have made or will get do not appear as rumours at all, they just become public knowledge when the deal is made.

                                Re: Bloomfield

                                Posted by HH on 14/8/2025, 10:26:18, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                I'm genuinely beginning to wonder if anyone even saw Nordas play before signing him.

                                He signed for us on the 3 Feb. According to Transfermarkt, his last game for Tromso would have been on the 1st December, where he played 31 minutes. And he managed 3 minutes in a match on the 23rd November. I seriously doubt he was being scouted before that.

                                If it's purely a data led signings, the data should be ceremonially burned.

                                Rumoured to have spent over £2m just to J in C can have a new routine.

                                Stinks of a desperate panic signing.

                                  Re: Bloomfield

                                  Posted by Music Critic on 14/8/2025, 11:03:50, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                  Agreed. Recruitment teams can't get everything right but to get it so spectacularly wrong is madness. My confidence in recruitment has taken a series of huge dents these last 2 years or so and Nordas is the biggest.

                                  Bloomfield was in the house by then, wasn't he? Surely he would/should have had a say

                                  An absolutely colossal fuck up. Have any of our 'big money' signings worked out? Struggling off the top of my head. McGuinness recovered from a poor start where Edwards was telling him to do stupid shit but I don't think he has, yet, justified his price tag

                                    The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                    Posted by Sandgrounder on 14/8/2025, 12:20:45, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                    Of all the players we’ve spent >£1m on since promotion to PL:

                                    - number sold at a profit - 0 (awful!)

                                    - number made our money back on - 1 (Aasgaard - due to terms of contract)

                                    - number sold at a loss - 3 (Kaminski, Giles, almost certainly Hashioka) - admittedly some educated guess work here

                                    - number almost guaranteed to be moved on soon at a loss - 4 (Chong, Nakamba, Holmes, Nordas)

                                    - number that have made a significant positive contribution since signing and still here - 3 (Alli, Makosso, Mengi 1 based on PL season) - all could be sold for a profit

                                    - number for whom the just is very much out right now - 5 (Andersen, McGuinness, Jones, Fanne, Brown)

                                    Keeley is too early to tell but looks a good signing.

                                    Alli and Makosso probably the best signings of the lot based on contribution, ability to stay fit and likelihood of profit if we sell (Keeley could join that group).

                                    Overall, it’s a pretty shocking squandering of the PL windfall. We didn’t bet big on anyone and instead signed decent championship players in the £3-5m range mostly who have just not kicked on and been really key players and/or increased their value.

                                    Best signings were Ogbene and Barkley for free (at least in terms of transfer fee).

                                      Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                      Posted by Trigger on 14/8/2025, 13:12:17, in reply to "The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                      So you've got a list of seventeen players.
                                      Thirteen are still at the club, three you're only guessing that we made a loss on, and one we broke even on.
                                      Yet you've made a comment that it's awful that we haven't made a profit on any of them.

                                      And Im pretty sure that the majority of Luton fans thought Nakamba, Chong, Jones and Andersen were
                                      good signings at the time.

                                      Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

                                        Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                        Posted by Sandgrounder on 14/8/2025, 14:25:06, in reply to "Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                        I acknowledged that it’s educated guesswork - but we certainly haven’t made a substantial / any profit on anyone apart from Ogbene and Barkley. The reason that most are still at the club is because they are injured and/or they’ve underperformed individually and been part of a squad that’s had 2 successive relegations.

                                        Regarding hindsight, I was delighted when we signed Nakamba but his signing has not been a success and he’s not been worth the fee and wages. A gamble that hasn’t paid off but a reasonable one to take. Andersen and Chong I never felt were good signings - Andersen didn’t have enough pace for PL and filled a position (centre of a back 3) where we were already strong, Chong massively inconsistent. Jones I thought was a decent punt to make as a struggling championship club but there were definite red flags that it might not turn out well. Again it was a gamble - there have been too many of them and not enough have paid off. As Music Critic said, 1-3 signings out of 17 being a success is nowhere near good enough. Needs to be at least 50% to have a chance of progressing as a club.

                                          Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                          Posted by Music Critic on 14/8/2025, 13:52:15, in reply to "Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                          Acknowledging that Sandgrounder might have been guessing on some fees (what else can he do when details are hardly ever disclosed - not got a view either way on that, btw. But it's a fact), how many of that 17 can you say have been a roaring success?

                                          Ok, Aasgaard would have probably been considered a success if we'd stayed up and he stayed with us. The fact he stayed with us for 5 months would suggest that he wasn't a success or, at least, can't be judged

                                          Nakamba has been unlucky with injury and we wouldn't have got promoted without him (but our knack of signing sicknotes is now becoming a bit of a joke). If his promotion contribution is balanced out by how many games he has missed since, I'm not sure if he can be called a success or not

                                          Jones, I like. And, guess what, he's injured (see above)

                                          Fanne has promise but rumours are circulating that he's off so we may never find out about him. I guess if we make a profit it is a success of sorts

                                          Andersen may yet come good and he's also been unlucky with injuries (see above)

                                          Alli and McGuinness - jury's out. Mengi - I don't know wtf to think about him but calling him a success would be stretching it at this point in time

                                          Kaminski - neither here nor there but a success? Don't think so

                                          That leaves Makosso as someone it could be sensibly claimed as a success. Keeley will likely be another but we don't know for sure, yet

                                          1 out of 17. A shocking return in anyone's books.

                                          Brown, Giles, Hashi, Holmes, Chong, Nordas - out and out flops. Brown and Chong might still prove me incorrect but, as we sit here today, they have been miles off being called a success at Luton Town FC

                                          As for players arriving and fans being happy about it. I don't remember people dancing in the streets to celebrate those arrivals but, yes, there was general contentment. However, before those players were signed, we seemed to have a good track record and we were on the crest of a wave, so we 'trusted the process'*. I think it's fair to say that things have not gone great, basically (it pains me to say it), since N Jones left and especially from summer 2023 onwards






                                          *and for years, our recruitment was bloody good. There is no way anyone can claim it is as good as it was

                                          Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                          Posted by Bootin on 14/8/2025, 13:07:29, in reply to "The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                          When you are paying very high wages to players following 2 successive relegations it is worth selling at a lower price than waiting for a better offer.

                                            Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                            Posted by Earls on 14/8/2025, 12:34:37, in reply to "The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                            Fair enough, though wasn’t Holmes £500,000 rather than seven figures?

                                              Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                              Posted by Sandgrounder on 14/8/2025, 12:47:20, in reply to "Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                              Seen it quoted anywhere from £500k to just over a million. Too much anyway and not money we are getting back!

                                                Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                                Posted by Music Critic on 14/8/2025, 12:54:30, in reply to "Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                                Well, that is a depressing list

                                                Between £3 million and £3.5 million on Holmes and Nordas...

                                                ~shakes head~

                                                Something has got to change in the recruitment processes/team

                                              Re: The full list of £1m plus transfers

                                              Posted by Sandgrounder on 14/8/2025, 12:23:00, in reply to "The full list of £1m plus transfers"

                                              ‘Jury is out’ for Andersen et al!

                                              Re: Bloomfield

                                              Posted by Herts Hatter on 14/8/2025, 11:50:44, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                              yeah I think the analogy for me is someone who suddenly gets a much better job and starts shopping for more expensive stuff which they don't really need or know much about. Seems our recruitment since 2024 has been like that - when you consider Lars Elstrup was our record signing for about 30 years and now we regularly spend £1m plus and I don't think we seem up to spending that money

                                              Re: Bloomfield

                                              Posted by Earls on 14/8/2025, 10:36:19, in reply to "Re: Bloomfield"

                                              Proper LOL to your penultimate par. (I still hope Nordas might discover Billy’s Boots somewhere, but I take your point.)

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