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    Modern football #5287390

    Posted by Caught Jester on 6/8/2025, 21:49:54

    Interesting article -

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/06/oasis-style-ticketing-expendable-fans-battle-to-retain-football-soul

      Re: Modern football #5287390

      Posted by Music Critic on 6/8/2025, 22:26:43, in reply to "Modern football #5287390"

      It is an interesting article but we've heard it all before and fuck all will change

      What have the FSA and other fans activism groups actually achieved? Next to nothing

        Re: Modern football #5287390

        Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2025, 8:44:52, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

        Yep exactly.

        All these conferences and ideas but unless they want to financially out muscle sky nothing is going to change.

          Re: Modern football #5287390

          Posted by Poster from the past on 6/8/2025, 22:31:35, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

          Because the problem is bigger than football. It's driven by the super rich who are fucking up everything for everyone everywhere. Look at any single thing in isolation and tell me I am wrong. I'm not. Join the dots. Tell your MP you've had enough and then tell them to start fucking taxing the 20,000 people in this country that are worth £10m+. If you don't your MP will very happily ignore the problem. And you and I will be increasingly fucked over with each and every passing day.

          outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

            Re: Modern football #5287390

            Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2025, 8:45:56, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

            I told my MP.

            I got a generic 'thanks for your email' reply.

            He couldn't give a fuck, and whoever replaces him when he's voted out won't give a fuck either.

              Re: Modern football #5287390

              Posted by MG on 7/8/2025, 7:57:06, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

              Spot on. It's where the money is going. Not sure how people are failing to understand that we are paying extremely high amounts of tax for piss poor services.

              The country is being sucked dry.

                Re: Modern football #5287390

                Posted by Poster from the past on 7/8/2025, 8:00:47, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                Correction, the world is being sucked dry. It's a global problem.

                outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                  Re: Modern football #5287390

                  Posted by MG on 7/8/2025, 8:03:17, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                  True enough.

                  And the likes of Trump have got impatient to finish the job off, hoped I would never see the day . . .

                Re: Modern football #5287390

                Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 7/8/2025, 7:24:20, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                And when they've f##ked off somewhere else where does the tax revenue come from? Nowhere near the biggest problem this country faces.

                  Re: Modern football #5287390

                  Posted by Music Critic on 7/8/2025, 11:27:22, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                  That is a complete myth peddled by the excessively wealthy and their minions

                  Their assets are here. How can they just fuck off?

                    Re: Modern football #5287390

                    Posted by MG on 7/8/2025, 12:06:00, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                    Here's where he tells you that a few poor people arriving on small boats stealing 49 quid a week from us are the real problem . . .

                    Re: Modern football #5287390

                    Posted by SAHB on 7/8/2025, 8:45:03, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                    It really is.

                    I think people are actually starting to realise that we are all being conned.

                    What is needed is for the whole world to come together and hit these parasites where ever they in the world, before they suck the blood from all of us.

                    People like you who defend the super rich and look at the poor as the problem promoting austerity, have helped cause this situation.

                    The journey leads you to the answers..

                      Re: Modern football #5287390

                      Posted by Zobra The Greek on 7/8/2025, 8:05:11, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                      Let me guess what is…

                        Re: Modern football #5287390

                        Posted by Poster from the past on 7/8/2025, 8:09:41, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                        If you mean what I think you mean, that absolutely is as well. If somebody introduced that ideology brand new today it would be outlawed in every civilised country on earth. It staggers me how much ignorance there is about their aims and methods. That along with the super rich not being taxed exacerbate each other so that combined they become the single biggest threat to our way of life. One is actually evil and the other is pure greed at everybody else's expense.

                        outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                        Re: Modern football #5287390

                        Posted by Poster from the past on 7/8/2025, 7:49:28, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                        Tax the assets that are tied to the UK. Total UK assets are worth about £12.5tn. If you are worth £10m+ then any of your UK based assets should be taxed aggressively.

                        GDP to debt ratio needs to stay below 93% otherwise it becomes unsustainable. UK is currently 96.3% it's the biggest existential threat to our way of life at the moment. The US is even worse, currently about 123% and predicted to reach about 136% by 2026. Check out what happens historically when debt levels reach this sort of level if you don't think it's the most serious issue facing the west at the moment.

                        outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                        Re: Modern football #5287390

                        Posted by Music Critic on 6/8/2025, 22:34:17, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                        I completely agree

                          Re: Modern football #5287390

                          Posted by Poster from the past on 6/8/2025, 22:41:56, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                          A new head fuck I learnt about today is that British taxpayers are footing the bill for the Bank of England who have to pay interest to commercial banks on the money that commercial banks are legally obliged to have deposited at the Bank of England. Something like £25bn per fucking year. If that isn't a mind bending fucking stitch up I don't fucking know what is. The cunts. But yeah let's tax the general public more to fix the new £41bn black hole. Fuck off.

                          outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                            Re: Modern football #5287390

                            Posted by SAHB on 7/8/2025, 4:58:30, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                            Questioner will be along in while to tell you how the money from the top filters down to the poor and that rich people will just go somewhere else, so stop picking on them.

                            The journey leads you to the answers..

                              Re: Modern football #5287390

                              Posted by Music Critic on 6/8/2025, 22:54:52, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                              Tax wealth (and massive corporations), not work

                                Re: Modern football #5287390

                                Posted by Poster from the past on 6/8/2025, 23:02:22, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                                I've just written my third email to my MP about this. It's fucking bollocks. Why did the American revolution happen? The French revolution? The Russian revolution? They can only take the piss for so long, eventually people will fucking kick back. And then it will get very unpleasant. No need to let it get that far out. Just fucking tax their massive cunting wealth, that they don't even fucking need.

                                outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                                  Re: Modern football #5287390

                                  Posted by Alien Nate on 7/8/2025, 6:41:37, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                                  All revolutions do, is put someone else, in the position to be corrupted by their position and power. Consequently and frustratingly, it is a very temporary fix.

                                  .

                                  We talked about some old times
                                  And drank ourselves some beers
                                  Still crazy after all these years.

                                    Re: Modern football #5287390

                                    Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 6/8/2025, 23:10:51, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                                    Right, put out a pro forma letter on here. I'll gladly tweak it and send it off to my useless MP. No wonder my long sinced passed told my mum on his death bed not to let the fucking tax man get a penny of his inheritance. The cunts.

                                      Re: Modern football #5287390

                                      Posted by Poster from the past on 6/8/2025, 23:36:36, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                                      Just say something along the lines of there's 20,000 people in UK who are worth £10m+. That is less than 1% of the population. Within that group there are 150 billionaires. Even if you just tax those worth £100m+ on their wealth, that is going to bring in about £24bn. Then you include stop the Bank of England paying interest to commercial banks, which is another £25bn which comes from the British taxpayer. There's £49bn straight away.

                                      Since COVID the government debt has increased by about £1tn. So we've gone from the country being about £2tn in debt pre COVID to about £3tn today. Where do you think that money has gone? The absolute vast majority of it has made its way back to the super rich. Who then invest it in assets, such as fucking government debt bonds, commercial property, domestic property, mortgage lending, and businesses. Tax the assets that are physically in the UK. This way it doesn't fucking matter if they leave the country, their assets are still here and can still be fucking taxed.

                                      There's 5m counting kids in fucking poverty. There's fucking councils going bankrupt and the services they are meant to provide being cut. Housing, higher education, childcare, elderly care costs, fuel, fucking train fares, food, utilities all going up faster than wages because those cunts are out competing you for the housing and education and the rest of that shit.

                                      Fucking join the cunting dots. Everyone else is increasingly worse off whilst the super are increasingly better off. If everyone is in debt, who are they in debt to? The cunting super rich. And it's fucking snowballing so it's only going to get worse.

                                      Enough is enough. Fucking tell your MP to get their fucking shit together and stop ducking the fucking MASSIVE CUNTING ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHY EVERYTHING JUST KEEPS GETTING FUCKING WORSE

                                      Or words to that effect mate

                                      outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                                        Re: Modern football #5287390

                                        Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 6/8/2025, 23:59:20, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                                        Cheers fella. I'll be on the case tomorrow. Hopefully others will see this before it gets deleted and do likewise.

                          Re: Modern football #5287390

                          Posted by Poster from the past on 6/8/2025, 22:10:16, in reply to "Modern football #5287390"

                          It's coin eyed cunts the world over, ruining 99.9% of other people's lives. The super rich are fucking horrible.

                          FUCK THE SUPER RICH

                          outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                            Re: Modern football #5287390

                            Posted by Alien Nate on 7/8/2025, 6:32:11, in reply to "Re: Modern football #5287390"

                            On the upside, even the super rich, have to put up with pot holes buggering their cars.
                            Well,,,, when they aren't flying obviously.

                            .

                            We talked about some old times
                            And drank ourselves some beers
                            Still crazy after all these years.

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