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    This transfer surplus

    Posted by NotaBene on 28/7/2025, 11:34:33

    It’s like a lottery rollover



    Spend some, please.


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      Re: This transfer surplus

      Posted by HH on 28/7/2025, 13:01:20, in reply to "This transfer surplus"

      This is pure speculation on my part, but I do wish the club had shown a bit more ruthlessness with certain players. Or, if they have been privately, I don't know why it can't be made public.

      MB surely knows who he wants and who he doesn’t. If players like Mengi, Chong etc. aren’t part of the plans, whether for footballing or financial reasons, I sometimes think we’d be better off just being open about it.

      Something like: “They’re great lads, but it’s best for all parties if they seek a new club. As a result, they’ll be training separately from the main group.” Clear message, no confusion.

      Right now, and I could be totally wrong, it feels like we’re being reactive to outgoings rather than necessarily proactive. Same with Doughty. Surely we knew there was a good chance he’d be off, so why not plan accordingly and crack on? Bring in the players we actually want for the season and move on from those we don’t.

      Because if we wait until late in the window to offload someone like Chong, and we’re not ready to replace him, are we going to be a player short?

        Re: This transfer surplus

        Posted by Music Critic on 28/7/2025, 13:12:44, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

        I agree 100%

        The only complication might be that that kind of talk triggers some sort of loyalty clause in their contracts that might state all sorts of things

        I'm sure I've heard stories where players have been put on the transfer list without them asking to be and that's triggered something that has cost clubs a lot of cash. I could be making it up but I'm pretty sure that's a thing

          Re: This transfer surplus

          Posted by m on 28/7/2025, 14:58:33, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

          So.pretty standard in most footballers contracts now is a final ‘loyalty payment’ if they don’t ask or instigate a move away during the term of the contract. Now I’m not sure if that figure can be reduced due to relegation or if it’s just the weekly wages.
          But I’d instead in some cases the loyalty payments , Morris , Kaminski were significant and that’s why we can’t just pay players off

          Re: This transfer surplus

          Posted by J in C on 28/7/2025, 13:06:40, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"
          Sarah

          The club are being very active


          Legend

            Re: This transfer surplus

            Posted by Father Ted on 28/7/2025, 13:08:47, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

            Unlike you Tubby.

          Re: This transfer surplus

          Posted by joey diconio on 28/7/2025, 12:24:01, in reply to "This transfer surplus"

          I think the technical term for the financial situation is “on our uppers”

          Last season was a footballing and financial disaster, and the buffoon that oversaw it is still pulling the strings



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            Re: This transfer surplus

            Posted by J in C on 28/7/2025, 12:08:32, in reply to "This transfer surplus"
            Sarah

            What surplus.Show us the figures accountant matey .


            Legend

              Re: This transfer surplus

              Posted by Sandgrounder on 28/7/2025, 11:51:27, in reply to "This transfer surplus"

              As I posted the other day, we have lost approx £10m in central funding (mostly tv revenue) due to relegation. So all these sales following our completely unnecessary and avoidable relegation have essentially just plugged that funding gap.

                Re: This transfer surplus

                Posted by Music Critic on 28/7/2025, 12:54:25, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                I think I'm right in saying that wages would have been cut on relegation, so there is a saving there. That £10 million loss in funding would have been partly plugged by these cuts

                  Re: This transfer surplus

                  Posted by joey diconio on 28/7/2025, 12:57:21, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                  It does beg the question how much the wages would go down for league 1, would anyone have realistically envisaged a drop to league 1 when signing the likes of Mads, Brown, Chong, Mengi in the premier league ?



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                    Re: This transfer surplus

                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 28/7/2025, 14:33:23, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                    Kaminski went from 5 figures pw to 4

                      Re: This transfer surplus

                      Posted by Music Critic on 28/7/2025, 13:07:41, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                      Who knows? It would be nice to get a definitive answer from the club on that. Or, at least, a general picture

                      Transparency was a 2020 pillar and, until recently, the club have done ok on that score (aside from transfer deal details and I know that completely winds your gears up. I don't think it's great either tbh but can see SOME arguments for that strategy)

                      But that just sums up the poor state of the comms at the moment, I suppose. A shame that an expert in PR had to step away from the Board earlier this year. He could have been given the job of leading all PR/Comms activity. A plan for the comms as well as managing the reactive stuff

                    Re: This transfer surplus

                    Posted by RADSB on 28/7/2025, 12:15:32, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                    Someone suggested the other day that the funds were going to a PC contingency fund. They linked it to the application to remove the requirement for affordable housing - which is likely to be refused thus creating a funding gap.


                    Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                      Re: This transfer surplus

                      Posted by HH on 28/7/2025, 12:48:19, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                      I think they might have a very good chance of having the requirement for affordable housing removed.

                      That land has taken up a lot of cost in terms of decontamination etc and I think from speaking to mates involved in the planning trade, that can heavily factor in your favour in those sort of apps.

                        Re: This transfer surplus

                        Posted by RADSB on 28/7/2025, 12:51:41, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                        That offsets what I heard from someone who use to work in planning - it was unlikely to succeed. So who knows.


                        Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                          Re: This transfer surplus

                          Posted by HH on 28/7/2025, 12:52:31, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                            Re: This transfer surplus

                            Posted by RADSB on 28/7/2025, 13:02:35, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                            Bloke down the pub....


                            Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                        Re: This transfer surplus

                        Posted by crumpsall on 28/7/2025, 12:42:36, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"
                        MIB

                        Some dickheads, including the usual suspects, will doubtless quote that as 'fact' now.

                          Re: This transfer surplus

                          Posted by RADSB on 28/7/2025, 12:45:28, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                          Yup, there's all sorts being said. Any info vacuum is quickly filled these days. .


                          Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                            Re: This transfer surplus

                            Posted by crumpsall on 28/7/2025, 12:49:51, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"
                            MIB

                            It is. Especially by those who love to shit stir.

                            Which is why comms need to improve, though anything like that would be 100% confidential anyhow of course.

                              Re: This transfer surplus

                              Posted by RADSB on 28/7/2025, 13:00:50, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                              True, but you can get around anything if you want to, for instance - every penny that can be spent is being spent on improving the squad.

                              That of course, relies on the credibility of the person saying it. But it doesn't reveal anything confidential or any sums to clubs we might buy a player from.

                              Waiting for the programme to come out on Friday night to find out answers isn't always the best policy. It's going to be written tomorrow so things may well have moved on.


                              Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                                Re: This transfer surplus

                                Posted by joey diconio on 28/7/2025, 12:50:31, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                Of course



                                Truth seeker / snide

                                  Re: This transfer surplus

                                  Posted by crumpsall on 28/7/2025, 12:52:52, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"
                                  MIB

                                  You think it wouldn't????

                                  Anyone with any sense of the workings of the real world would know exactly why such things are always confidential. Or any sense at all, frankly.

                                  Sadly beyond some, I guess.




                          Re: This transfer surplus

                          Posted by Well on 28/7/2025, 12:14:42, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                          40 million parachute payment.

                          You missed that out.

                            Re: This transfer surplus

                            Posted by Sandgrounder on 28/7/2025, 12:28:09, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                            Yes, but my point was we probably weren’t budgeting to be relegated from the championship and if you suddenly lose £10m in funding that has to come from somewhere. The cost of relegation is huge in terms of reduced control over the future of players, lower player value / transfer fees, less central funding. Even if we go straight back up it will have still set us back significantly and meant we’ve failed to fully capitalise on our PL season.

                              Re: This transfer surplus

                              Posted by joey diconio on 28/7/2025, 12:32:28, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                              January 2024’s total Garying has conservatively cost the club £200m



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                                Re: This transfer surplus

                                Posted by Sandgrounder on 28/7/2025, 12:37:52, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                Disagree to some extent as I still think PL relegation was more likely than not even if we spent £20-30m (for example) in Jan 2024. Totally fair to say that the summer 2024 fcuk ups and poor decision making last season have cost the clubs tens of millions of pounds though.

                                  Re: This transfer surplus

                                  Posted by joey diconio on 28/7/2025, 12:41:09, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                  Relegation might have happened but to not even try to stay up was criminal.

                                  To get relegated last season is close to the biggest fuck up in football history.



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                                    Re: This transfer surplus

                                    Posted by Father Ted on 28/7/2025, 13:18:42, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                    100% the biggest in our history. Still absolutely mystified how they let that happen.

                                Re: This transfer surplus

                                Posted by Well on 28/7/2025, 12:31:32, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                We’ve failed massively for sure.

                                My fear is if we don’t go up this year then things will get a lot harder.

                                  Re: This transfer surplus

                                  Posted by joey diconio on 28/7/2025, 12:39:20, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                  It would seem to me, due to utter incompetence, they they have realised they cannot really touch the parachute payments as they need to cover costs for the next few years especially if promotion is not achieved



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                                    Re: This transfer surplus

                                    Posted by Ostrich spotter on 28/7/2025, 13:12:59, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                    You are doing your very best to be banned, you do know you can not make pertinent observations like that?

                            Re: This transfer surplus

                            Posted by Floater on 28/7/2025, 11:38:25, in reply to "This transfer surplus"

                            Selling Doughty means that we get his wages off our books, which is important given the 60% spending cap on wages and incoming transfer fees. Yes, we have the parachute payment but we have to be sustainable if we are stuck in League One for a few seasons.

                              Re: This transfer surplus

                              Posted by Letchworth Hatter on 28/7/2025, 11:48:04, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                              Why would we be planning on being stuck in League One?

                                Re: This transfer surplus

                                Posted by Floater on 28/7/2025, 11:51:57, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                I doubt that we're planning that but what if we don't go up? Balancing the risk seems a difficult task to me, aprticularly if the fan base is unsettled. I don't envy 2020. However, I would back the club not to gamble on everything this season.

                                  Re: This transfer surplus

                                  Posted by NotaBene on 28/7/2025, 11:53:42, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                  I assume you went to Braintree?


                                  All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

                                Re: This transfer surplus

                                Posted by Mr T on 28/7/2025, 11:40:49, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                I’m pretty sure there is a rule for relegated teams that players already on the books at the point of relegation into League One are treated differently for the purposes of the 60% calculation.

                                  Re: This transfer surplus

                                  Posted by Not a Doughnut on 28/7/2025, 11:49:16, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                  Yes, they are deemed to be earning the League One average.

                                    Re: This transfer surplus

                                    Posted by Floater on 28/7/2025, 11:47:59, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                    Yes, 75 per cent for a newly-relegated club

                                    Re: This transfer surplus

                                    Posted by NotaBene on 28/7/2025, 11:40:40, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                    The whole point is not to be stuck in League One for a few seasons.

                                    The ambition of this club is fcking depressing.


                                    All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

                                    Re: This transfer surplus

                                    Posted by Bombz on 28/7/2025, 11:35:31, in reply to "This transfer surplus"

                                    Don’t hold your breath

                                      Re: This transfer surplus

                                      Posted by old hat on 28/7/2025, 12:14:54, in reply to "Re: This transfer surplus"

                                      The depressing thing is posts by NotaBene and Bombz

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