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Shayden Morris transfer fee
Posted by Melbourne Hat on 18/7/2025, 8:24:38
If reports are to be believed, we have had two bids turned down by Aberdeen for Shayden Morris, the most recent £600,000.
If it is also to be believed (and I have no reason to doubt it yet) that we have a 'healthy' transfer budget, then we should be able to meet the valuation and pay market value instead of arguing over what is effectively pocket change in todays football market.
No idea if he is considered as 'if we get him great, but if not, meh' or someone we would break the bank to get our hands on.
But I do think that in this period of financial advantage we have over the rest of L1 we should be able to make a statement of intent at some point.
(Indeed, the apparently imminent signing of the young Spurs keeper looks great. No idea of the fee though.)
If £600k is being knocked back then presumably it must be at least half of what would be considered market value. If market value is £5 Million then we are of course taking the piss. But if market value is, say, £1 Million we should be able to step up if this is an identified target. If Aberdeen still say no, then fair enough, that is their perogative.
I wish we could have played a bit more hardball ourselves over the likes of Aasgaard.
I suspect that he’s the sort of player that the people in charge thought - if we can get him for bid a it’s a good deal - if we can get him for bid b it’s a fair deal. And they’re deciding whether there is a bid c.
All this “just pay the money” is ridiculous. Pay what you think it’s worth. That’s all.
That’s all very well and I agree in the main but we have lost out on targets because GS thought they weren’t worth it. Like anything it’s worth what someone is prepared to pay.
Agree with that. Maybe I didn't say what I meant clearly enough. Not trying to start any arguments.
If we think player A is worth X, then it should surely be at least close to what could be reasonably expected.
Offering £1 for something that is clearly worth £10 is a ridiculous starting point. (Not saying that is the case here at all.)
Just saying that I would hope the figure of £600k is presumably at least in the ball-park. If Aberdeen would only sell for silly money way beyond that, then absolutely, walk away.
We don't know the ins and outs or all the extas, add-ons etc.
Paying £1m for something you value at £600k would be crazy in any business or personal capacity, unless you literally had unlimited money which the club clearly don’t.
There is a difference between paying over the odds for something, and missing out because you are trying too hard to get a bargain.
It’s a fine line but hopefully the club can get it right!
I don’t know much about this chap but based on what I’ve seen him and the keeper from Tottenham would be good signings for L1. The keeper in particular seems to have an excellent reputation.
Apropos of nothing, didn’t we get Adebayo because Huddersfield were arguing the toss with Walsall over refusing to meet their £250k valuation and only going to £200k? To anyone who’s tempted to say Adebayo wasn’t worth the extra £50k: please don’t, you’re better than that.
Ah, fair enough. My failing memory/poorly-informed gossip was that Walsall were so fed up of being messed around by Huddersfield that they sold to us even though Huddersfield finally said “Oh, wait, no, we can pay that fee too after all.” Our best bit of business bar Barkley this past decade, anyway.
I’d say Ogbene was pretty good business too from a purely financial perspective - turning a free transfer into an £8M player over the course of 1 season (which Ogbene was injured for significant chunks of too!) is pretty good going!
Yeah, that’s what I meant by ‘from a purely financial perspective’ - totally agree that the two you mentioned had more playing impact.
I was surprised we got as much as we did for Ogbene and it highlights, with the benefit of hindsight, that we probably should have cashed in on more players whose value would never have been higher than it was at the end of the PL season. Then use the money to rebuild the squad, as Sheff Utd and Burnley did.
the benefit of hindsight, that we probably should have cashed in on more players whose value would never have been higher than it was at the end of the PL season
Whilst I agree, I also think the issue is, if we're saying Ogbene was worth £8m, then surely Eli's value after that Premier League season should've easily been £10m+, right?
Yet the only solid rumours last summer were around Fenerbahçe at about £7m. Whether there was an actual bid or not is anyone’s guess, but I do get why the club held back from selling at that price.
What nobody expected was the dip in form from Eli. Still staggering just how poor he ended up being and he's probably worth all his value now and I can see him leaving for nowt next summer.
Yep, absolutely, I’m not saying we should’ve just accepted anything, or let Mengi go on loan to Torino, for example (which was rumoured). But injury and loss of form are a risk for any player and a reason to cash in if you get something close to what you want, rather than exactly what you want. Ultimately players are only worth what someone will pay. I also highly doubt that even if Eli had a decent championship season that his value would’ve increased. So then it’s what is he worth as a player for us vs the money.
Ultimately, I think if we got promoted to the PL again we’d do things a bit differently if/when we got relegated.
But i have a distinct recollection of a vocal minority of donuts on here giving it the big bollocks about how outrageous it was tagt we’d got into the prem and were taking free transfers from Rotherham.
I'm not bothered if we don't sign him. I'd never heard of him until yesterday. And I don't see why we should be held to ransom by a club who are probably equivalent to a mediocre 4th Division English club. Fuck 'em if they don't want to play ball.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO PISS THE 3RD DIVISION ANYWAY outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.
If you go to buy a car and you see one that you like the look of and you think that it is worth £6000 but they say that they want £10000, you have three options.
Pay the £10000 Walk away Make them a higher offer and see if they accept it
If I thought that the car was only worth £6000, I wouldn't pay £10000 for it even if I could afford to do so. Even if I knew that I had more money than my neighbours (which I don't) and some of them were interested in the car as well, I wouldn't pay way above my valuation just to stop them buying it.
I don't think it's just about whether or not you want to stop someone else buying it. Surely it's more about whether you feel has considerable resale value and profit in the future and whether you paying a bit more than you want now could later contribute to you being even wealthier in the future from the success it brings you?
Crumpsall mentions 'healthy' in reply to a post specifically about transfer budgets. Tbf later in the chain he mentions playing budgets so it's easy to see where the confusion comes from... In my reply saying healthy is subjective I was talking about transfer budgets specifically
I specified twice that I was referring to playing budget. And replied to a figure you had 'plucked out of the air'
Certain people have got into a lather about my use of the word healthy and one has become something of a stalker.
I did say there is a willingness to spend within that Nathan Lowe (the initial subject) thread, and there transparently is as evidenced by the publicised Aberdeen lad bids.
Frankly it's becoming tiresome trying to be positive when dealing with the negativity and misrepresentation that's become endemic on here.
Might just pack it all in and let the doom and gloom merchants run riot. Plenty of others have already stopped bothering.
If it were possible to stop people being stupid, ignorant, cunts, I'd have had zero hesitation in doing so a LONG time ago.
On here, all you can do is point out that they're talking bollocks, explain where their logic is flawed and hope they actually get it. More often than not, they come back a few days later, spouting the same, stupid, shit. Which, given that we have to share a planet with the thick cunts, is just a little depressing.
I hear what your saying but I would suggest cars ablnd other material goods are not the same as people.
I also do think that if you have the cash, like we do, then you need to make the most of it - no point having it if you don't use it (that obviously raises questions about whether it's a good use if money/resources though). On the flip side you don't want to end up artificially inflating the already bloated transfer market with ridiculous sums.
What I'm basically saying is that there is a balance to be had between flexing our financial muscle but without being stupid. Live justly, love mercy, perpetuate generosity, walk humbly.
and that's exactly it. Whether or not we actually do have cash to spend or not, the point is that others perceive and think that we do, and will therefore ask more of us irrespective of whatever we believe our value of that player actually is. Playing hard ball over the last few transfer windows hasn't exactly worked. I'm not saying be gung ho about it, but it is that balancing act.Live justly, love mercy, perpetuate generosity, walk humbly.
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