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Afforrdable housing

Posted by EastEnder <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=EastEnder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 10:34:26

In Luton, the legal requirement for affordable housing on new developments is determined by the Local Plan and Supplementary Planning Documents. Generally, housing developments of 10 or more homes are required to provide 30% affordable housing, according to Luton Borough Council. However, the specific requirements can vary, and developers may need to negotiate with the council based on site-specific viability assessments

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Posted by bbb <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bbb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 11:35:28, in reply to "Afforrdable housing"

So what's the reasoning behind 2020 not wanting affordable housing?
Does Gary just not like poor people?

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Posted by PaddyHatter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=PaddyHatter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 16:17:38, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

You'll attract the wrong sort. Watford fans for example.

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Posted by EastEnder <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=EastEnder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 11:56:18, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Not financially viable to have any any longer, i think is the reason.

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Posted by deeuu <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=deeuu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 11:42:01, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Would rather one complete building be turned over in its entirety to housing migrants. It can be called “Deliveroo house” and should bring on some additional revenue.

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 11:44:56, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

Tell me you’re an ignorant bigot without saying you’re an ignorant bigot

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Posted by deeuu <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=deeuu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 12:49:38, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

I’m not a bigot. I believe genuine asylum seekers should be helped, but people should come through proper channels, not arrive in small boats. My concern is about security and fairness, not race or nationality.

But hey, you knew that.

Open your eyes to what is happening in cities and towns throughout the country for Christ sake.

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 14:44:07, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

The "proper channels", like when we were in the EU and asylum seekers could be processed in France, but some stupid idiots voted to leave the EU, and now they can't??

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Posted by deeuu <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=deeuu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:01:34, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

So that makes it right for illegal migrants to cross.

I don’t care where illegal migrants are processed.

You sound like a broken record, always someone else’s fault! You should become a Labour mp.

Don’t bother replying!

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:07:05, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

Why? Because you don't like your surmises being wrong?
Are you going to join Farridge's bunch of bigots?
PS; What do you think is the difference between an illegal migrant and an asylum seeker?

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An asylum seeker legally requests protection due to persecution or danger in their home country, while an illegal migrant enters or stays without permission, often for economic reasons, without claiming asylum.

Read my post above, I have no issue with legitimate asylum seekers.

I refer you to what is happening up and down the country with illegal migrants, it’s wrong.

You are obviously okay with it, in which case you are part of a much bigger problem coming down the tracks.

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:15:14, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

So they're in their home country, being persecuted, and they can just pop along to a government department to ask for permission to leave. Dimwit.

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Posted by Round Green Hatter <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Round+Green+Hatter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 13:04:41, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Some people honestly believe in open borders, no visas, no checks, no passports. Those that do though are ignorant apparently

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:01:56, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

So if you live in a country with a repressive regime which persecutes people of your religion or tribe, say, you should meekly ask for permission to leave, in full knowledge that it will probably be refused, and you imprisoned?

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Posted by bbb <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bbb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:04:57, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

They're coming from France love.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:08:58, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

They didn't start off in France, sonny. And I'm not your "love", you patronising misogynist.

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Posted by bbb <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bbb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:15:30, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

So why can't they stay in the first safe country they get to then love?

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:19:45, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

Because, sonny, they may have relatives here. There is nothing in the UN rules on refugees that says they have to stop in any country along the way.

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Posted by Carp Fisher <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Carp+Fisher' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 17:33:46, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Your statement is flat-out wrong and misleads on how asylum works in the UK. The 1951 Refugee Convention doesn’t explicitly require asylum seekers to claim protection in the first safe country, but UK law and international agreements impose strict barriers, directly contradicting your claim that “nothing” stops them.The UK’s Nationality and Borders Act 2022, Section 80B, allows the Home Office to declare asylum claims inadmissible if the claimant passed through a safe third country, like France, where they could have sought asylum. The Illegal Migration Act 2023 goes further, barring claims from those entering irregularly via safe countries. Post-Brexit, the UK uses bilateral agreements, like the UK-France Joint Action Plan (2020) and the Sandhurst Treaty (2018), to cooperate on border control and return asylum seekers to safe countries like France, undermining your claim of unrestricted movement.Saying “relatives here” justifies bypassing safe countries doesn’t hold water. UK courts, in cases like R (Bajratari) v Secretary of State [2019], consistently rule that skipping safe countries without compelling reasons—like immediate danger—damages a claim’s credibility. Family reunification is a narrow exception, mainly for unaccompanied minors under strict Home Office rules, not a free pass for all.The UK’s border enforcement—Channel patrols, detentions at places like Manston, and the Rwanda plan (despite legal hurdles)—shows clear obstacles to “just waltzing in.” In 2023, over 29,000 small boat arrivals faced processing or removal, proving your “nothing” claim is nonsense.Your statement ignores UK laws, bilateral agreements, and practical measures designed to stop asylum seekers from bypassing safe countries. Pretending otherwise is simply not true.

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Posted by Well <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Well' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 21:05:06, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Then Brexit came in to play and Europe said F@@@ your laws.

Uk law means F all.

Enjoy the boats.

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Posted by bbb <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bbb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 20:29:36, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Pffft. Facts eh?

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Posted by bbb <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bbb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:27:20, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Relatives. Yeah, that must be it.

Ffs🤣🤣

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:36:19, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

Why?

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Posted by bbb <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=bbb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:47:45, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

No, no. It's definitely all about relatives.
All those women and children on the boats just want to be with their 2nd cousins in Bradford.

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Posted by deeuu <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=deeuu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 16:28:00, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

2nd cousin, isn’t that the same as spouse! *

*comment thrown in to fit the title of bigot

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Why not stay in France, is it because your darling Starmer makes it attractive to come.

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:17:37, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

They've been coming since before last year's election.
And I've said before, I do not agree with Starmer. Stop assuming. You know what "assume" means.

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Posted by spix <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=spix' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 11/7/2025, 6:10:03, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Have you offered a room in your tax payer funded council house to an immigrant ? No of course you haven't.

Neither have I. I want to discouraged these waifs
and strays from illegally entering Britain, not encourage them.

France encourages the boats. They don't want them either so the frogs turn a blind eye to the boats leaving. We should send them back, every one of them, to Calais from whence they came.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 11/7/2025, 12:58:05, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

"Taxpayer funded"?

I pay rent and Council tax, you snobby git.

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Christ yes, it’s what you spend your time doing.

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 17:24:28, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

No, dearie, that’s you. You’re the one making assumptions.
When you grow up, let’s hope you have more nous.

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Sat wearing a keffiyeh in 30 degree heat makes you say daft things.

A shoe without its lace trips the fastest.

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Posted by Nearly a Genius <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Nearly+a+Genius' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 15:13:13, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"
Legend of Outlaws

Eh?
Why the f*** would I be wearing a garment worn by Middle Eastern men?

Go and have a lie down, before you make yourself look even dafter than you already have.

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Posted by Trigger <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Trigger' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 13:15:54, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

So they're the equivalent of 'happy clappers' then in the borders debate?

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Posted by TheDunstableWindsock <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=TheDunstableWindsock' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 10:42:22, in reply to "Afforrdable housing"

But what's that got to do with our new messy away kit and not one, not two, but 3 new signings?

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Posted by Poster from the past <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Poster+from+the+past' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 10:35:56, in reply to "Afforrdable housing"

Every developer pulls the affordable housing in between getting the initial planning permission and starting the actual building. It's what always happens.

outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

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Affordable housing is not actually affordable for most people anyway!

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Depends how you define affordable. You can easily make a case for anything that can't be bought outright by savings or current account is unaffordable meaning that anything that requires a mortgage equals unaffordable.

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Posted by Andy Cappuccino <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/info/user=Andy+Cappuccino' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/7/2025, 11:13:38, in reply to "Re: Afforrdable housing"

Every mortgage is unaffordable, really?

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Affordable housing just has loads of hidden costs, eventually it becames as expensive or more so than normal housing.

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True

outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

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