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    2020 Developments

    Posted by joey diconio on 10/7/2025, 7:19:57

    have applied to have all affordable housing requirements removed from Power Court to make it economically viable.



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      Re: 2020 Developments

      Posted by LTFC39 on 10/7/2025, 8:50:29, in reply to "2020 Developments "

      Don’t worry, not taking money from gambling sponsors is really making us the most progressive club in the country.

        Re: 2020 Developments

        Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 8:55:33, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
        MIB

        Great. That'll set off a few more of the obsessive critics of 2020....

        I wonder sometimes what people actually want to achieve.

          Re: 2020 Developments

          Posted by bbb on 10/7/2025, 8:59:05, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

          A half decent team to watch would be a good start.

            Re: 2020 Developments

            Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 9:02:18, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
            MIB

            Seconded

        Re: 2020 Developments

        Posted by Ostrich spotter on 10/7/2025, 8:26:51, in reply to "2020 Developments "

        Surely this requirement can not have come as a surprise to 2020 Developments?

          Re: 2020 Developments

          Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 8:32:14, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
          MIB

          Er...do try to keep up!!!

          Re: 2020 Developments

          Posted by HH on 10/7/2025, 8:13:35, in reply to "2020 Developments "

          "Without these amendments to the affordable housing provision, the site is simply
          unviable and undevelopable. The retention of this obligation would therefore prevent the delivery of
          either end of the site at the same time as the stadium and leave the city centre site unfinished
          undelivered."


            Re: 2020 Developments

            Posted by Melbourne Hat on 10/7/2025, 7:29:21, in reply to "2020 Developments "

            Would that mean the planning application needs to be reassessed?

            I have no clue about this stuff so no idea if this is nothing to worry about or not.

              Re: 2020 Developments

              Posted by MG on 10/7/2025, 8:00:19, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

              I'd say it means that 2020 Developments are behaving in the same awful way most developers tend to behave.

                Re: 2020 Developments

                Posted by RADSB on 10/7/2025, 8:24:48, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                Lots of homeless have been sent to Luton from elsewhere in addition to our own homeless issues. So 200 affordable apartments in the Town Centre would be a target for London Boroughs with the money to outbid others and send their homeless here. Prices of the other apartments would therefore drop. Harsh but you see the problem 2020 have - and with relegation we have lost a lot of revenue.


                Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                  Re: 2020 Developments

                  Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 8:35:35, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
                  MIB

                  The legality of the whole (real and documented) issue of London boroughs bussing their homeless problems (and workers) out to Luton is totally immoral (ammoral?)

                    Re: 2020 Developments

                    Posted by RADSB on 10/7/2025, 9:01:28, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                    A whole community - a block of 16 flats in Crawley Green Road -were evicted a few years ago to make way for better paying London Boroughs - who placed their homeless there. Lives of people who had been there for decades were ruined. Shameful.


                    Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                      Re: 2020 Developments

                      Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 9:06:38, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
                      MIB

                      And when this stuff first came to light, I caught a bus from London back to Luton, which filled up with council workers (can't remember which borough) in their council gear/lanyards etc who all piled off close to a block of flats which had been similarly 'acquired'. How can this be right/legal? Luton then has to cover costs/weight of health care, unemployment etc.

                        Re: 2020 Developments

                        Posted by Nev the bear on 10/7/2025, 10:21:08, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                        It's not just luton it happens in most towns that are within a 40 odd mile radius of London.sorr to say the are mostly dole dossers,so do not contribute anything

                          Re: 2020 Developments

                          Posted by RADSB on 10/7/2025, 9:16:44, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                          LBC were one of the richest in the late 1980's with huge assets. The decline has been spectacular and there's little money. The station car park that was completed in 2011 could only be built because they sold off other land.

                          As you are aware, the Town takes out far more than it puts in as regards taxes so income/ccompensation from London Boroughs is vital - though there seems to be evidence that the money LBC gets is not enough when the strain on particular services are examined such as child and mental health services and others.


                          Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

                    Re: 2020 Developments

                    Posted by SAHB on 10/7/2025, 8:16:53, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                    The building industry is as crooked as most industries.
                    Builders have been cheating on building "affordable" homes since the scheme was brought in.
                    It was reported yesterday that the top 7 builders made a donation towards "affordable housing" because they were caught sharing information which is against the competition rules.

                    Basically they said " here have a bung, and let us get on with being corrupt".

                    Affordable housing is not affordable to most anyway.

                    Housing has been in crisis for years, brought on by the utter greed of the big builders, who only build for the highest mark ups, Sit on huge land banks, stopping building when the margins go down.

                    We have under built deliberately to keep prices high for the last 40 yrs.


                    The journey leads you to the answers..

                    Re: 2020 Developments

                    Posted by Findlay on 10/7/2025, 7:35:50, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                    Not the original application, but the proposed amendment would.

                    I don't know much about this kind of stuff, but if council policy is to include 20% affordable housing, then I can't see how this would amendment would be approved.

                      Re: 2020 Developments

                      Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 7:50:06, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
                      MIB

                      A standard part of ongoing development negotiations/processes apparently (I've certainly come across plenty working with developer clients in the housing sector).

                      (Doubtless standard finger pointing at me to come from usual suspects for responding)

                        Re: 2020 Developments

                        Posted by The Questioner on 10/7/2025, 8:54:39, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                        Is that right. My daughters b/f works for a house builder and every development has to have affordable housing included. Not sure why this would be any different.

                        Hopefully nothing to see here as anymore delays imo would be disaster. Think it was 2016 we first got permission…that’s a long time.

                          Re: 2020 Developments

                          Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 9:01:59, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
                          MIB

                          S106s are part of every planning application. Very few actually come to full fruition in their initial form. Sometimes it's cynical, sometimes it's down to changing conditions of various sorts.

                          It doesn't take a genius to see what impact the latter is having: in fact it has been mentioned frequently by the club.

                          I don't like this change, who would, but it's absolutely standard stuff in terms of negotiation.

                          Unfortunately some people will exploit the fuck out of this, whilst others voice real and reasonable concerns.

                            Re: 2020 Developments

                            Posted by The Questioner on 10/7/2025, 9:38:32, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                            Hope you are right in that it’s standard practice although agree it sounds a bit shoddy.
                            Just hope it doesn’t delay us anymore.

                          Re: 2020 Developments

                          Posted by Melbourne Hat on 10/7/2025, 7:57:28, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                          Nothing (or not much?) to be concerned about then?

                          Standard procedure being to ‘try your luck’ to see what wriggle room exists?

                            Re: 2020 Developments

                            Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 8:05:16, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
                            MIB

                            That's one way of looking at it I guess!

                            I'll ask around at some point but don't see anything to be concerned about in the general scheme of life.

                            Especially given current climate re everything to do with construction!

                              Re: 2020 Developments

                              Posted by Cuba on 10/7/2025, 8:45:21, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                              It would be a fair question to ask as to whether this rollback on Social Housing was true before we changed the design and increased capacity around this time two years ago.

                                Re: 2020 Developments

                                Posted by HH on 10/7/2025, 9:00:02, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                                I've had a quick look through and the previous mention of affordable homes is from the year 2020 when the documentation said the densification of the site would allow them to provide the affordable homes.

                                TBF, materials have skyrocketed since.

                                But even so, 2 bed flats going for over £400k in the town. Is it really unviable or is this just a developer trying it on to make more profit?

                                https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/163845041#/?channel=RES_NEW


                                  Re: 2020 Developments

                                  Posted by crumpsall on 10/7/2025, 8:52:28, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "
                                  MIB

                                  What are you trying to suggest?

                                  That's a pretty wild connection as the 'one stage build' has been said to be saving around 40million

                                  But as ever you will go to anything to try and promote your hobby horses.


                                  Reading the documents might be a good idea...

                                  Re: 2020 Developments

                                  Posted by Melbourne Hat on 10/7/2025, 8:26:15, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                                  Fingers crossed then.

                                  Latest drone footage I can see on YT mostly shows a few blokes in hard hats and hi-vis strolling around and some big machinery lumbering about. Bus it is great to see the progress made with the diversion of the river.



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                          Re: 2020 Developments

                          Posted by Kurious Oranj on 10/7/2025, 7:22:53, in reply to "2020 Developments "

                          I can't see that being approved.

                            Re: 2020 Developments

                            Posted by MkHat on 10/7/2025, 7:37:00, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                            One estate in MK built an old people's home to get round it. Sure we could try the same 😁.

                              Re: 2020 Developments

                              Posted by Garstang Hatter on 10/7/2025, 8:33:15, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                              There are a few posters on here who could move in


                              "Never too high, never too low"

                                Re: 2020 Developments

                                Posted by RADSB on 10/7/2025, 8:36:15, in reply to "Re: 2020 Developments "

                                ..............


                                Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885

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