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    "Major" changes to the squad

    Posted by Nick NBH on 9/6/2025, 21:17:23

    Are there any that you would actually miss if we got our money back? Mikosso maybe

      Re: "Major" changes to the squad

      Posted by Trondheim Hatter on 10/6/2025, 10:48:34, in reply to ""Major" changes to the squad"

      With League one only allowing for a squad of 22 players, I do feel we will see major outgoings before we get anyone in. Unsure I would miss many, as many are on very high wages and will cause issues with the wage restrictions of league 1 due to our poor ability to get other funds in. Also the question of wages some of our players are on, I dont think anyone above 10000 quid a week is worth that in league 1 on a general level due to the complications it brings us with the wage structure of the division. It is however impossible for us as fans to know the wages of the players so who has to leave, who is overpaid etc is purely speculation allthough with a lot of very strong rumors on some, we know there are significant weekly wage payments to some.

      We need hungry players able to field a promotion challenge in the first season, so a mixture of the younger players in our squad, and maybe 1 or 2 of the more experienced plus a group of more experienced players from this level would be what I assume be the result of this transfer window.

        Re: "Major" changes to the squad

        Posted by The Outsider on 10/6/2025, 11:34:28, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"
        VIP

        With League one only allowing for a squad of 22 players

        It's not really any different to the PL and Championship as the 22 excludes goalkeepers. Also, it's only seven subs so the matchday squad is smaller.

          Re: "Major" changes to the squad

          Posted by Sandgrounder on 10/6/2025, 11:07:31, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

          Next season, when we are receiving parachute payments, there will be no issue with our wage spend getting anywhere near the restrictions. The season after that will be a different story if we are still in league 1, but I imagine any remaining high earners will have moved on by then or their contracts will have expired.

          Re: "Major" changes to the squad

          Posted by Letchworth Hatter on 9/6/2025, 22:55:34, in reply to ""Major" changes to the squad"

          Yes, because we've got some very good players for the level. In fact we beat Brighton in the Premier League 4-0 only 16 months ago with some of those players you won't miss.

          All this 'I'd drive them there myself' bollocks is going to look pretty stupid when the reality of playing in League One kicks in.

          We're back in a division of Mendes Gomes, Fred, and James Collins, whilst Elliot Lee, Berry, Lloyd Jones, Kioso and who knows, Pelly, play in the division above us.

          Many of our players proved they could compete in the Premier League but now fans want them gone whilst celebrating the potential arrival of a 32 year old Millwall wage chaser.

          Mengi, Doughty and Kaminski are a given but don't be surprised if bids come in for players like Morris, Clark, and McGuinness. Very quickly we won't have just lost our Prem prima donnas but some really decent Championship players too.

            Re: "Major" changes to the squad

            Posted by Music Critic on 11/6/2025, 9:46:31, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

            It doesn't matter if we have 'very good players' for League 1 if their mentality isn't right and they don't want to be here

            And, face facts, for a lot of our players the mentality will never be right. A lot of those wankers had a season in the prem and now think they're too good for us. Fuck 'em

            The reason we beat Brighton 4-0 was as much about the mentality. The mentality of our squad was great from 2016-2023 (and in 2013-14). Since relegation it's been shit

              Re: "Major" changes to the squad

              Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 9/6/2025, 23:01:40, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

              On that basis you'll be looking like a right fucking dick if we don't piss this tinpot league whilst keeping the majority of the squad intact. Nah, fuck em. They may have been relatively decent in the Premiership but they've shown they can't even hack the next level down either. Who's to suggest they will at tier 3?

                Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                Posted by Letchworth Hatter on 9/6/2025, 23:46:52, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                That won't be an issue because we aren't going to keep the majority of the squad intact - because rather than being 'lazy cunts, many of our badly managed and constantly injured players are far too good for League One.

                Bloomfield has already said today that there is going to be a lot of change. It won't just be our Prem and Champ signings that leave, Aasgard, Alli, Fanne and Makosso will also be targets.

                The bigger question is, will you look like a dick when we lose all those quality players and the not so great replacements don't win the tinpot league?

                You're asking a hell of a lot from 2020, Bloomfield and the new recruitment team. I think we will be competitive - we should be - but piss the tinpot league, we'll see.

                  Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                  Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 10/6/2025, 14:31:08, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                  Make your fucking mind up. One minute you're saying that we've got some very good players for L1, now you're saying it will be difficult. I appreciate that two positions aren't mutually exclusive but really.

                    Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                    Posted by Cuba on 10/6/2025, 8:28:17, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                    That is a very negative perspective and I don't agree.

                    We will be the top player salary payers in League 1 and we are also the favourites for OPTL.

                    So even if some players do leave we simply replace with the best available at the level we are working at.

                    Players like to be in a winning team and having the League 1 Championship on your CV is still decent.

                    Effective use of the loan market, as Orient proved with Kelman, is also key.

                      Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                      Posted by Letchworth Hatter on 10/6/2025, 9:56:08, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                      "So even if some players do leave we simply replace with the best available at the level we are working at."

                      Isn't that what we were also meant to do last season when we were also one of the favourites to get promoted?

                      We lost Barkley, Lakonga, Ogbene, Osho, and Kabore and brought in Walsh, Baptiste, Moses, McGuinness, and Walters.

                      I'm not saying that we can't win League One next season but it is going to be a lot more difficult than many think.

                      The turnover of players is going to be huge and history tells us that we won't be throwing money around on wages.

                      So, going back to the original post, yes I think I we will miss a lot more players than just Makosso - and realise fairly quickly that having the "League 1 Championship on your CV" might not even be enough to keep the lads we brought in, in January on board.

                        Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                        Posted by Cuba on 10/6/2025, 10:29:10, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                        At the start of last season we still had the vast majority of a squad that had won promotion and then performed well in the Premier League.

                        But critically even with our PL money we were still a small club in the Championship.

                        Players like Burrows would have been a decent signing but we simply couldn't compete with the clubs with far greater spending power.

                        However a club with a parachute payment in League 1 is a huge advantage.

                        Spend that money wisely and we will get promotion.

                        Doesn't all need to be on transfers or massive wages either, attract the right players from this level, get the loans in and we start to head back upwards quickly.

                        For me there are probably two players who I would be genuinely disappointed to lose, Makosso and Ali.

                        If we can get good money for Aasgard, Alfie, Kaminski and Mengi that its lets say another £15 million+ for the future.

                        In Wycombe, MB had a team that may well have won promotion before he departed. He did that on a fraction of the resources we have to play with.

                          Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                          Posted by Earls on 10/6/2025, 10:58:39, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                          I don’t disagree with most of that, but… I think you’re over-estimating the combined value of those four outgoing players. £12m would be decent imo, let alone £15m+.
                          Also, without rehashing old ground on parachute payments, I very much doubt much of it is going on players. As you’ve stated, if our wage bill isn’t the biggest in L1, there will still be a lot of players on Championship wages.
                          We won’t need to financially panic because of the parachute, but nor does it give us ££££ to play with. At a guess, Bloomfield can spend what he makes in sales with a bit of cash on top. Sweet said in last season’s programme notes we weren’t going to start spending big this summer.
                          If Bloomfield can move on a lot of players and bring in a lot too, happy days.

                        Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                        Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 10/6/2025, 9:35:56, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                        Of course there is no guarantee that the 'best available' will be good enough for success in L2

                          Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                          Posted by crumpsall on 10/6/2025, 9:45:52, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"
                          MIB

                          Good grief. Call yourself a 'supporter'?

                            Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                            Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 10/6/2025, 10:30:03, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                            Mr Angry pipes up again. I meant League 1 btw, but at least you had the chance to unleash some outrage, well done.

                              Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                              Posted by crumpsall on 10/6/2025, 11:00:55, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"
                              MIB

                              Hardly my fault if you're incapable of getting a simple but rather important single figure right.

                              Actually, thinking of it, do you ever get a single fact right either?

                              Outrage? Hardly. I just think you're a bit of an idiot.

                          Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                          Posted by crumpsall on 10/6/2025, 9:00:20, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"
                          MIB

                          'We will be the top player salary payers in League 1'

                          Prove it.

                          I bet you're wrong.

                            Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                            Posted by bbb on 10/6/2025, 8:36:43, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                            That is a very negative prospective.

                            Blimey!🤣🤣🤣

                      Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                      Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 9/6/2025, 22:40:07, in reply to ""Major" changes to the squad"

                      No. Lazy cunts.

                        Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                        Posted by Poster from the past on 9/6/2025, 21:41:44, in reply to ""Major" changes to the squad"

                        I really like Alli's up and at 'em attitude and will hopefully get the golden boot for us next season as we piss the 3rd Division.

                        outlaws is not the barometer of sanity.

                          Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                          Posted by Nick NBH on 9/6/2025, 22:12:45, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                          Decent shout. I like the fact he will have a go from anywhere. I don`t think his shooting is consistent enough to be top scorer though. more a support striker in a 3 up front

                            Re: "Major" changes to the squad

                            Posted by Camavinga on 9/6/2025, 22:17:23, in reply to "Re: "Major" changes to the squad"

                            That’s what i thought
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