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    Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

    Posted by HH on 7/6/2025, 7:46:46

    Apologies if an iceberg but a decent interview with him from January 2024

    https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/ex-arsenal-academy-coach-yousuf-28466090?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

    People were calling for a tweak to the structure. So on paper, it looks like a positive and necessary step. Let’s see if the changes translate into better outcomes.

      Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

      Posted by Music Critic on 7/6/2025, 17:15:21, in reply to "Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

      At least something is changing. We couldn't go on like we were based on the last 3 windows (even though January 2025 wasn't as bad as the previous 2)

      Just hope it works and we get back to what we were good at for most of the time between 2013 and 2023

        Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

        Posted by Controllable on 7/6/2025, 8:42:16, in reply to "Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

        Cheers, that was interesting.

        In fairness, some of our recent windows have been very different circumstances to normal (trying to sign players in the prem without overcommitting/ensuring they accept clauses etc; then trying to battle off undermining influenced last Summer). Our last few years also saw us spreading our network across diverse international leagues, which can be tricky but presumably the aim was to be like Brighton as per Chapple’s prior work with them.

        Hopefully in league one we can get more towards our prior strength of recruiting from English leagues, where it is more straight forward to compare and contrast players. Not sure how hard it is to assess Danish/Belgian leagues compared to here, for example and I’m not sure how much support the club have in place for overseas players integrating into a new country.

          Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

          Posted by HH on 7/6/2025, 8:47:37, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

          Yeah, fair points.

          We know the club is data led, but as you say, it would be interesting to know how how they weigh the data of someone playing in a comparatively weaker league vs other targets playing in supposed stronger leagues in England.

            Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

            Posted by bbb on 7/6/2025, 10:31:50, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

            If its data led, how the fuck did we end up signing Baptiste?!🙈

              Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

              Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/6/2025, 10:37:45, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

              Everyone and their aunt uses 'data led recruiting' now.

              How many do it well is a different story.

              I imagine in the games Baptiste actually played he probably has good stats for passes completed or progressive carries or something, which flagged up in certain filters. The fact he only plays a two games a season wouldn't have come up until later

                Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                Posted by Father Ted on 7/6/2025, 12:08:25, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                Your last sentence is utter fucking nonsense, his injury record would have been the first thing to come up. They took a gamble on him and unfortunately last season it didn't come off but if we keep him fit next year he's easily one of the best midfielders in div 3,if not the best.

                  Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                  Posted by Letchworth Hatter on 7/6/2025, 11:43:01, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                  When fit Baptiste is easily one of our best players and one of the few I'd genuinely heard of when we signed him. Probably has a bigger profile in the game than many of our Prem signings like Mads, Giles, Brown and Ogbene.

                  Absolutely tore League One apart when at Oxford United (when fit!) and sold to Brentford for around 2 million.

                  Good enough to play 55 times in the Premier League for Brentford.

                  Scored an own goal for us when we beat Brentford 2-1 in the Championship.

                  I don't think there was much data analysis required, I think we just decided to take a gamble on a player that on his day is easily Championship standard - but sadly injured much of the time.

                  I guess the more important research and analysis would have been would he pass the medical, which he did - so we gambled.

                  The fact that we decided to take Walsh on as well who had a similar playing / injury history was a bit mad though.

                  I really hope we can get Baptiste fit because on his day he is a hell of a player for League One.

                    Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                    Posted by The Outsider on 7/6/2025, 11:57:17, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"
                    VIP

                    Also, sent off against us when playing for Oxford.

                  Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                  Posted by crumpsall on 7/6/2025, 10:42:17, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"
                  MIB

                  Rightio....I thought you were a data professional? Makes your last sentence a nonsense.

                  My bet is that Baptiste was a player Edwards wanted, he came cheap because of his record and they chose to take a low risk gamble.

                    Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                    Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/6/2025, 11:21:00, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                    No it doesn't. Depends on how the data is displayed. There's probably a player page of some sort that would have that information on but is that separate to other statistics?

                    I don't know, but if you do know please feel free to share I would find it genuinely interesting.

                    I suspect you're right, but also I wouldn't be surprised if he does score highly in some metrics as he does seem a decent enough player when fit

                      Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                      Posted by crumpsall on 7/6/2025, 11:28:40, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"
                      MIB

                      Why on earth would his fitness/injury data 'come up later'?? (Which is what you said) That makes absolutely no sense at all.

                      Agree entirely about a decent player in there. Personally, don't think that justifies the risk taken

                        Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                        Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/6/2025, 11:39:18, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                        Player in game statistics would be stored separately to player injury information. There could well be a dashboard that combines them, tbf

                          Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                          Posted by crumpsall on 7/6/2025, 12:01:49, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"
                          MIB

                          Neither of us know for certain but I have chatted to one of the stats chaps and more or less certain ghere will be a combined dashboard or similar.

                          Certainly not an afterthought as you suggested

                            Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                            Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/6/2025, 13:38:43, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                            I don't know crumps, it was a flippant throw away comment I didn't expect to have to defend it tbh

                            Given our record of signing injury prone players I think it's an area we target to find value - some come off, Doughty for example, some don't

                              Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                              Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/6/2025, 13:43:58, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                              Although saying that, at the ltst evening GS bristled a bit at the suggestion we struggle with injuries. Someone suggested Brown might be injury prone iirc and Sweet went on about how his latest injury is an impact injury that can't be helped

                                Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                                Posted by HH on 7/6/2025, 17:45:05, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                                TBH, my hunch is thag I wouldn’t read too much into those comments from GS.

                                I don’t think he should be coming out publicly and saying certain players are injury-prone, that’s not really something you want the CEO putting out there.

                                That said, I would hope (and suspect there is) there’s a bit more acknowledgment internally about our injury issues. We’ve had spells, like in the Premier League and again this season, where multiple players were out at the same time. That doesn’t just feel like bad luck. It starts to look more like a problem with conditioning or how we manage players physically.

                                  Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                                  Posted by MG on 7/6/2025, 22:47:23, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                                  They have acknowledged it a lot, including investing a million in the training pitch because they identified a lot of non impact injuries were occurring in training because of the heavy pitches at times. Apparently a few teams found the same.

                                    Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                                    Posted by HH on 8/6/2025, 7:21:07, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                                    Yeah, was aware of the pitch investment. Although I must admit I thought that had already been carried out and was in place this season?

                                      Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                                      Posted by MG on 8/6/2025, 7:39:34, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                                      It was, which is slap bang in the middle of the period that you referenced.

                                        Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                                        Posted by HH on 8/6/2025, 7:59:14, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                                        Which is somewhat my point.

                                        If the pitch was already in place for this season, perhaps there have been conditioning and physical management issues in place earlier this year.

                                  Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                                  Posted by crumpsall on 7/6/2025, 19:04:38, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"
                                  MIB

                                  Thus the changes with Danny Murphy.

                                  Trust Interview well worth reading

                                    Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                                    Posted by HH on 8/6/2025, 7:12:52, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                                    Yeah, was a decent read.

                                    Sods law in the weeks after it was published we lost several key players for the rest of the season.

            Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

            Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 7/6/2025, 8:01:32, in reply to "Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

            Yep, let's hope they can deliver the overhaul needed if we are to challenge for promotion, although it's unlikely to be instant success

              Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

              Posted by HH on 7/6/2025, 8:13:52, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

              Most of the people involved have been there a while so you would have thought it wouldn't overly impact targets for this summer.

              The change in structure to me seems to be more about a change in who has the final say etc.

                Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager

                Posted by Godders on 7/6/2025, 8:06:19, in reply to "Re: Sajjad - Recruitment Manager"

                Yes indeed. But one of the key take aways from that article was that it will take time and several transfer windows.


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