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    Lockyer not impressed

    Posted by Cork hatter on 24/5/2025, 7:00:32

      Re: Lockyer not impressed

      Posted by Cuba on 24/5/2025, 9:38:12, in reply to "Lockyer not impressed"

      I just wish Lockyer would stop with the club criticism.

      As many will know its not the first time I have stated this, while he was a club employee I felt the club should have had a word - which some interpreted my criticism of the club - it wasn't

      Now he is effectively released it would seem he is going to carry this on and with that it undermines the club and any prospective target/agent could use this against us.

      Its clearly a terrible situation for Tom but what more/else could the club have done over the last 18 months?

      Yes the press no doubt spin this for dramatic effect but Locks didn't have to speak to The Sun in the first place.

      We need a completely clean sweep, the days of such criticism have gone, to get back up at the first attempt we need quality and fitness in every position and support the manager and club for every decision.

        Re: Lockyer not impressed

        Posted by J in C on 24/5/2025, 11:11:33, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"
        Sarah

        You criticise the club non stop

        Legend

          Re: Lockyer not impressed

          Posted by Farhat on 24/5/2025, 10:48:57, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

          Thought you'd have mentioned this, Cuba mate.

          Link: https://www.lutontown.co.uk/en/news/locks-brings-joy-to-local-school-children

            Re: Lockyer not impressed

            Posted by crumpsall on 24/5/2025, 9:45:25, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"
            MIB

            Is it not fair to assume that he agreed to the interview - one of many of recent days - to promote what's happening this weekend?

            As for
            'I just wish Lockyer would stop with the club criticism.'

            FFS, I sincerely hope you write that with a massive dose of irony.

              Re: Lockyer not impressed

              Posted by Cuba on 24/5/2025, 9:55:15, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

              Every recent article re: Tom has ended up with criticism, directly or implied. Yes I appreciate what happening today but just talk about that and not be drawn in contract conversations.

              We ALL have to move on. What's done is done. No need to hark back to perceived mistakes.

              Line drawn.

                Re: Lockyer not impressed

                Posted by crumpsall on 24/5/2025, 9:59:27, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"
                MIB

                There will be no line drawn under your constant slating of everything to do with the club.

                Like that, or lump it. You are defined by it.

                And your first line is plain untrue.

                Re: Lockyer not impressed

                Posted by Nick NBH on 24/5/2025, 9:58:35, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                You`ve missed the entire point of him doing interviews right now haven`t you?

                He and Vinnie Jones are promoting fans (and everyone) learning CPR - and focussing on the play offs for this. I`m sure you`d agree that that is a worthy cause and message (i wonder how many people here do know how to).

                Now as part of the media awareness for this he will be asked questions about himself. And some journos may be a bit naughty about putting words into his mouth. Yet you focus on the clickbait headline and not the message and the reason for the interviews. Why is that?

                  Re: Lockyer not impressed

                  Posted by Cuba on 24/5/2025, 10:21:09, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                  As one of my children has a very similar health condition and based on my experience of the CRY team at St Georges in Tooting I am fully appreciative of the cause.

                  Hence why I am so pissed that off that such a worthy cause has been used to talk about personal contract aspects.

                  Bad taste and unnecessary. Its always about him, and I have stated this at various times over the last 18 months.

                    Re: Lockyer not impressed

                    Posted by joey diconio on 24/5/2025, 12:06:59, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                    You are unwell


                    Look out for Comical Ali

                      Re: Lockyer not impressed

                      Posted by bbb on 24/5/2025, 12:29:50, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                      Innit.

                      As if we're supposed to believe that some Doris has let him breed.....

                      Me me me me me.....

                      Posted by Farhat on 24/5/2025, 11:29:38, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                      *Its always about me, and I have stated this at various times over the last 18 months*

                        Re: Lockyer not impressed

                        Posted by crumpsall on 24/5/2025, 11:22:57, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"
                        MIB

                        That is a totally fucking out of order comment and utterly disrespectful to Lockyer.

                Re: Lockyer not impressed

                Posted by joey diconio on 24/5/2025, 8:51:43, in reply to "Lockyer not impressed"

                Obviously we don’t know what discussions have gone on, it’s a shame if he wasn’t offered some sort of deal, but maybe he was and didn’t like the terms, so the compromise of continuing his rehab here was reached.


                Look out for Comical Ali

                  Re: Lockyer not impressed

                  Posted by crumpsall on 24/5/2025, 8:45:43, in reply to "Lockyer not impressed"
                  MIB

                  Talk about a loaded headline!!

                  Shame as the emphasis should be on what Tom has been through and what the delayed kick offs are about.

                  Looks like a door has been left open for him anyhow

                    Re: Lockyer not impressed

                    Posted by Nick NBH on 24/5/2025, 9:54:07, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                    I used to work with someone who did a sun interview (she had been on a fly on the wall documentary). What she said and what was reported were 2 entirely different things.

                    I imagine it was a very loaded question "did it hurt being released after all you have done for the club" "yeah obviously its a disappointment but football is a business and i`d like to get back into it" was probably more like the way the interview went .

                    I`d imagine that if he passes the playing tests and gets back into it, a contract will be offered. Equally at that point a championship club may be willing to take a risk

                      Re: Lockyer not impressed

                      Posted by J in C on 24/5/2025, 9:06:47, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"
                      Sarah

                      i stopped reading after 4 lines maybe 5

                      which is no slight on the player

                      Legend

                        Re: Lockyer not impressed

                        Posted by Sandgrounder on 24/5/2025, 9:01:52, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                        I mean a direct quote is “felt hurt when I got news I wasn’t getting a new contract after what I’d done for the club”. So the heading and subheading doesn’t feel that unreasonable

                          Re: Lockyer not impressed

                          Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 24/5/2025, 13:28:33, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                          Tabloid journalists literally put words in people's mouths though. That write up could be from something he said, or it could have been from an interview that went:

                          Q: "Did you feel hurt when you got news you weren't getting a new contract after what you'd done for the club?"
                          A: "Yeah"

                          As a rule of thumb it's a good idea never to read (or speak to) The Sun.

                            Re: Lockyer not impressed

                            Posted by crumpsall on 24/5/2025, 9:19:37, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"
                            MIB

                            Come off it!

                            'Torment'
                            'Axe hurt'

                            FFS

                              Re: Lockyer not impressed

                              Posted by Sandgrounder on 24/5/2025, 9:32:08, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                              Well obviously it’s in a ‘tabloid style’, but clearly he’s not happy, doesn’t agree with the decision, has been ‘axed’ (in tabloid speak) and is hurt. So I don’t feel the headline completely misrepresents how he feels. Clearly the headline in the Guardian / Times based on the same interview would have been different

                                Re: Lockyer not impressed

                                Posted by crumpsall on 24/5/2025, 9:42:36, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"
                                MIB

                                He says he feels 'hurt': that it but in the very next line goes on to say it's a business.

                                And then 5 paras later clearly indicates there may be an opening to get back in if he gets the all clear.

                                The headlines just put words into his mouth which he hasn't said and which I don't think in the slightest reflect the actual tone of what he's said.

                          Re: Lockyer not impressed

                          Posted by Piilkinhio on 24/5/2025, 8:21:25, in reply to "Lockyer not impressed"

                          Personally believe it a big mistake to not offer at least a pay as you play contract.

                          More personality, leadership, character and will to win in his bit toe then the rest of the squad put together

                          He unites the club, something much needed as it became divided last season. Something toxic happened in the culture. That dressing room had issues and he would have fixed it no doubt


                          I’d say nearly dieing for the cause deserves at least that commitment in return

                            Re: Lockyer not impressed

                            Posted by LTFC39 on 24/5/2025, 11:18:38, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                            How many players accept PAYP contracts these days? Very few.

                            Our supporters really need to get with the times.

                              Re: Lockyer not impressed

                              Posted by Cork hatter on 24/5/2025, 8:27:41, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                              We need to be ruthless. We have been swayed by loyalty with players and it has bloated our squad, but I would let him continue his rehab with us and see how he is and maybe give him a year contract as I think he is a quality leader and bloke. I can still remember the pissing rain at Blackpool and lockyear throwing his body all over the place to win us that game.

                              Re: Lockyer not impressed

                              Posted by LTFC39 on 24/5/2025, 8:18:45, in reply to "Lockyer not impressed"

                              Not quite sure what he really expects?

                              He would've got a whopping pay rise after promotion, despite collapsing in the play-off final hence why he was only given a 2 year deal. And then he hasn't played for 18 months.

                              As far as I can tell, the door is still open for him if he proves his fitness. If he can get himself ready for pre-season, throw him into a couple of games and hopefully we'll offer him a deal.

                              This summer was all about being ruthless. This was the right decision by the club.

                                Re: Lockyer not impressed

                                Posted by The Questioner on 24/5/2025, 8:40:14, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                                Sounds a bit harsh but I agree with that.
                                The club , correctly imo , have been incredibly supportive.

                                  Re: Lockyer not impressed

                                  Posted by Maah001 on 24/5/2025, 12:00:37, in reply to "Re: Lockyer not impressed"

                                  Agreed. Apparently needs two reserve style games to get medical clearance to play fully. Unwise for the club to make a contractual commitment until that clearance has been forthcoming.

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