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Rob Edwards
Posted by Ronnies Finger on 14/4/2025, 14:29:12
Did REs total stubbornness with that 3/5 at the back( i.e using Chong and Moses) create the Shite we are in now? Admittedly he had injuries, but Chong and Moses simply were defenders in any sense of the word . When it was clear it was not working, and we were shipping goals, surely a back 4 would have been a start?
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Hattersman on 14/4/2025, 15:15:01, in reply to "Rob Edwards "
I think 4 at the back and Kai instead of Mengi we would have got something from Saturday.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by RADSB on 14/4/2025, 15:02:44, in reply to "Rob Edwards "
The back 3 got us up but with Nakamba protecting. It was man for man rather that killed us in the EPL and he continued it in the EFL. Plus (some of these overlap eachother) -
RE being flattered by Pep and Klopp - "don't change" the system. No Plan B when the Pep system wasn't working No Plan C to close a game down - losing so many leads like Newcastle, Bournmeouth, etc Poor recruitment - discussed widely on here and elsewhere. Replacing Barkley and Lokonga with Clark and Nelson v Burnley and that theme continued. Off field antics No leaders in the team. Players dropping at least 10% some more - as referenced by TL. RE staying too long - should have gone after Boro away Lost our DNA and that has to be totally rebuilt
Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by LTFC39 on 14/4/2025, 18:13:32, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
Part of me thinks Edwards was being played by those managers. He bought into the hype and the likes of Pep said don't change because they weren't winning!
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by HH on 14/4/2025, 18:16:28, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
100%
If we had beaten them the likes of Klopp etc would have been whinging about our pitch, our style of play etc.
Easy to compliment the opposing manager like Pep did when you've scored 13 goals in three games against them.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by HH on 14/4/2025, 16:18:35, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
I actually think the Rob from June 2024 till the day he was sacked is one of our worst ever managers.
Whereas pragmatic and disciplined Rob from Nov 22 to March / April 2024 was largely a very good manager.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Earls on 14/4/2025, 17:15:13, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
That’s unfair. Edwards did change the system after the first four games in the Prem, and had us proper contenders to avoid relegation by the 4-0 win over Brighton in February. I’d pinpoint it to the second half of the Bournemouth away game, when Edwards’ failure to sub a destroyed Hashioka allowed Bournemouth back into it. From that point on, yes, one of the worst managers etc.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by HH on 14/4/2025, 17:26:05, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
Yeah. Agreed.
My previous post said from preseason for this season, from June 2024 onwards!
Rob from his appointment until April / May last season was very good.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Earls on 14/4/2025, 19:38:31, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
Oh yeah, sorry. What year is it again?
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 14/4/2025, 15:24:18, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
RE was totally wedded to the 3-5-2 even when it flew in the face of any logic.
Classic example of that was first few games in the Prem. It was suicide to play two up top but his stubborness prevailed and we took a few dickings.
This season he clearly wanted to play out from the back and cut out our high press. Basically stop doing all of the things that made us what we were. He changed it back for Watford and Sunderland and then reverted back to a very passive style.
We ended up with a miss mash of tactics that clearly confused the players
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Buzzard on 14/4/2025, 15:36:21, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
Yup. We sit in the Bobbers now and there were many occasions when players were looking for advice on what they were supposed to be doing. It just became more and more baffling and the football became shitter and shitter to watch.
I feel sorry for the new gaffer
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Ronnies Finger on 14/4/2025, 15:12:21, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
I agree 100% to all those other factors conspiring to our demise. Just saying that the early part of the season, when we were shipping goals for fun, that formation seemed to many and including myself… to be a massive factor..
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by RADSB on 14/4/2025, 15:18:14, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
First game - JJ followed his Burnley player into their half leaving a big gap behind, matey turned, ball played over the top where they had come from and, matey, one on one, tapped home.
Our defence was dragged all over the place. When I say defence, I mean every player because they all had to mark someone - Doughty was particularly poor at staying with his man. Mr J.C. Lomax having been called upon to give his opinion upon the proposed formation of a Town Club, said he was most emphatically in favour of a proposed Luton Town Football Club - 11th April 1885
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 14/4/2025, 14:56:51, in reply to "Rob Edwards "
A mix of unbalanced recruitment and injuries have meant that in general the best players available have fit into a 3-5-2 more than any other formation. We don't have much going for us, but at our best our strengths include: reliability and calmness of Bell; crossing of Doughty; physicality of Adebayo and Morris. All those strengths suggest 3-5-2.
Moses won the Premier League at wing back, it wasn't insane to go with him there.
There are loads of reasons why we're joint bottom of the league, but I don't think switching from 3-5-2 to 4-3-3 (or whatever) would have changed much.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by bbb on 14/4/2025, 14:50:33, in reply to "Rob Edwards "
It was part of the problem but not the single reason. No one thing is the reason it's been a complete cock up. Its an accumulation of things.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Notorious D on 14/4/2025, 17:36:41, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
+1.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Zobra The Greek on 14/4/2025, 14:47:55, in reply to "Rob Edwards "
Didn't work very well when Bloomfield played a back 4 did it? I don't think this squad really has the full backs to play a back 4 successfully atm.
Bloomfield had recently stopped the rot at the back after reverting to a back 3. Add to that we went up playing a back 3.
I don't think the formation was the problem. It was just the manager had lost his way, tried to implement a new playing style but the players just couldn't adapt (And in reality we didn't really have the players who can play that type of football), and then he completely lost confidence in himself and was making some increasingly bizarre choices.
Despite the kneejerks from Saturday, I'm pretty sure that if MB had been appointed in October we'd be safe by now.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by spix on 14/4/2025, 15:30:57, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
5-4-1 for the Derby game. Stifle them to death, frustrate the home crowd then catch a breakaway goal and a classic NJ style 1-0 away win.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 14/4/2025, 20:28:32, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
You can play whatever formation you want on Friday, if the guys on the green show the same desire as they did last Saturday we ain't winning
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by bbb on 14/4/2025, 14:52:35, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
Totally agree with your final paragraph. I'm hoping Saturday was an unexplainable fuck up from MB and Friday he reverts back to the progress(all be it slow) that he's been making.
Re: Rob Edwards
Posted by deeuu on 14/4/2025, 15:24:33, in reply to "Re: Rob Edwards "
Are you off the naughty step🤣Here squishy squishy
Re: Rob Edwards
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