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Two Poor Teams
Posted by Oliver Cromwell on 12/3/2025, 17:05:05
Thought we were shocking first half. Much better second half when Adebayo & Morris went off ! Mind you Cardiff were even worse. Can’t see them staying up !
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by millstreet on 12/3/2025, 18:00:30, in reply to "Two Poor Teams "
It's a poor league haven't seen many decent teams this season Keep the faith Enjoy the ride COYH
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by The Questioner on 12/3/2025, 18:16:27, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
Think you must have missed Leeds….
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 12/3/2025, 19:05:00, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
He said he hasn't seen many, not any
And I agree with him. A poor league that we've stunk out. But we now have a glimmer of hope that something can be salvaged from the season
Don't worry, I've seen people with "It's a poor league this year" syndrome many many times before. Pretty much every single year to date to be specific.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 12/3/2025, 21:19:07, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
And if their lovechild took a dump we'd end up with you.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 13/3/2025, 8:44:22, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
Ha!
To be fair, I like Teacher in real life! I know he rubs people up the wrong way on here but he's a good bloke
And, as for MG, I do often agree with what he says on here and have no idea who he is but he's obviously wearing his tight pants this week as he appears to be very irritated
I don't think it's complicated . . . every year people say "it's a poor division" that we are in, Especially if we perform below expectations. It's as predictable as night following day.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 13/3/2025, 8:40:18, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
No, I'm just baffled as to why you seem the type to walk into an empty room and still try to cause an argument. Just really strange. I was agreeing with you about Leeds and then you decide to jump on something else because of, well, whatever reason
I find your post pretty patronising to be honest. I have followed football for 4 decades. I know when what I'm watching is shit or not
I don't think I've ever said a league is particularly good or bad until this season. If you can point that evidence out, then go ahead.
If you can't see that the standard of this league is way below what it was when we first stepped into this division, then I can't help you
And, as Sandgrounder says, if your team is doing well is when you usually pick fault with the quality of the competition, not when you're having the 'mare we're having
You've never said that the league was particularly good or bad until this season? This is the first time in that forty years you have thought this . . . fair enough.
As for whether I see the same as you, I simply don't see enough games to say either way. I mean to be able to judge the standard of a division you'd have to watch a significant proportion of the matches, right? I don't.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 13/3/2025, 10:32:08, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
You've never said that the league was particularly good or bad until this season? This is the first time in that forty years you have thought this . . . fair enough.
~sighs~
Patronising again. Can't help yourself
Let me frame it another way - how many teams have you seen us play this season that you have genuinely thought 'this lot are decent'?
When we first came right up until we went up I thought there were a few. I've seen 2 this time round - Burnley and Leeds
Well, you have to admit, it would be quite something if this actually was the first time you've ever thought that in forty years, it would make this season a huge outlier. Wouldn't it? But the point is genuinely that lots of other people do use it to exaggerate their points criticising our performance most years.
I think Leeds are a fabulous side at this level from what I've seen of them. With only 11 goals conceded so far Burnley obviously have incredible organisation. So, being in between them in the table, Sheffield United are either very lucky or they have something about them to. And so on.
It doesn't matter what I think of them from games against us though. Surely you can think back to times when we were doing well, how often did we hear opposition fans from lower teams (at the time) saying that we didn't look up to much?
I've seen a couple of Pompey's games with neighbours and they have looked decent in them. Against us, not so much. But, I simply don't have the time to watch enough games to judge either way.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 13/3/2025, 11:10:33, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
FCOL, expressed an opinion on here, I mean. You were implying that every season I, and others, say that the division we're in on any given season is shite. That is just not the case.
You get a feel for the general standard of a division over a series of home games.
Unless you're saying that we have the very unlikely coincidence that everyone, apart from Burnley, who have played at Luton this season have ALL had an off day and they're actually all utterly fantastic teams, which we should feel privileged just being on the same pitch as, then the standard has been the worst since we got promoted in 2019
If you feel you've not watched enough to judge it, then fine. I know what I'm seeing with my own eyes
People do say that pretty much every year, sorry if you don't and this is your first time but it comes up most years. That's simple fact.
If you think you can judge the standard of a division from watching a few of our home games when quite a few of the opposition haven't needed to get out of second gear to beat us then fair play to you. Yet we all know that often games away to lower sides can be more attritional than beautiful and good sides adjust to that and do what they have to.
Maybe it's the nature of the work I did where we had to constantly make decisions based on partial data. We made the best decisions we could but we were always mindful of the fact that they had structural weaknesses we needed to mitigate. We'd make them because we had to but wouldn't trust them. Perhaps I carry that mindset with me too much.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 13/3/2025, 11:30:46, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
Ok, fair enough. But, as Sandgrounder says, it usually comes up if you're pissing the league, not struggling in it
I, too, often work with partial data and instinct. It usually works for me
It worked well enough for us, but we always recognised those decisions for what they were. And that was what kept us on the right side of the outcome on many occasions.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Sandgrounder on 12/3/2025, 23:21:51, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
I’d say people say it more if we perform above expectations - like the year we finished 3rd
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 13/3/2025, 9:07:13, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
What made finishing 3rd and going up all the better, was that the division was decent that season
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 12/3/2025, 18:53:01, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
They will struggle in the PL, Farke won't last out next seasonRest In Peace Brian James
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Music Critic on 12/3/2025, 19:36:23, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
I think they might be OK next season although I said that about Leicester in August
But the gulf between prem and c'ship is getting too big. It looks like 6 out of the last 6 promoted sides will be dropping out the Prem over the last 2 seasons
Not good
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by TheDunstableWindsock on 12/3/2025, 18:50:53, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
In case you hadn't noticed, there are 22 other sides, most of them looking decidedly ordinary.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by SurreyHat on 12/3/2025, 20:11:14, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
There’s 4 good teams in this league and everyone else much of a muchness.
How the fuck we would like be with our ordinary 21 times betters than theirs but we are not.
Re: Two Poor Teams
Posted by Father Ted on 12/3/2025, 20:24:43, in reply to "Re: Two Poor Teams "
Probably the worst quality Championship in many many years and we have stunk it out. Little bit of momentum now and hopefully better times to come. Leeds and SU will go up. I hope with all my heart that Sunderland bottle it again.
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