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Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 12/11/2024, 12:53:00
So..why keep him taking up a squad space if as manager you decide two days into pre season you don't want him..we're you told to keep him..so act like a child and keep him on bench...be interesting to know what's what in that little pairing
Do you think Jacob Brown or Woodrow would have scored as many goals as Taylor in the lower leagues? Some players are just goalscorers, not good footballers, but just have the knack of getting on the score sheet. Looks like we will never know if that applies to Taylor at this level.
To be honest, Edwards views Pelly like Taylor, we know he has more to offer if he was trusted to play more often. Not necessarily a regular starter, but if he got decent minutes to play his way back in.
It's seems far more likely that we didn't rate him. We tried to move him on and get someone else in. It didn't work out.
He's the fifth choice striker, . . . he's not likely to get much game time. You're the one acting like a child making these massive assumptions based on nothing.
We didn’t rate him - we only purchased him not long ago. The point, regardless if you do or don’t rate JT is everyone on here can’t solve the puzzle of how this squad is being set up and utilised.
Stating JT doesn’t fit our press game is looking daft now, CW doesn’t either. This would be the press game very few can do for more than 70 mins and end up injured. Oh for a clear plan B…
we are fourth from bottom and playing like a sub standard Wimbledon from 1986 - who gives a shit what our "coaches" "think"? They are failing big time and need to try some new stuff. They clearly can't judge a player from Adam because they signed Chong and the other shit shows we have on offer many of whom turn up every 5 minutes in 90
RE doesn't rate him - we wouldn't pay the fee (or loan fee) for Tom Canon - so he went all the way up to Huddersfield for nothing.
Usually we're much better at player welfare and looking after their interests and syncing those with the issues of the club. We've failed on this occasion.
Our recruitment as mentioned loads of times. Has been so shoddy
He doesn't rate him as much as Cannon and he is showing what he can do right now with Stoke so likely a good call there.
He doesn't rate him in our system as much as our other strikers. Doesn't mean he doesn't rate him at all.
When you say, "we wouldn't pay the fee" for Cannon what you mean is that it is likely we wouldn't pay as much as Stoke would have or the player / parent club preferred for him to go to Stoke. Chances are, most teams wouldn't want to pay as much as Stoke.
Putting aside whether he's good enough or not, I can see why he might, allegedly, be a bit pissed off.
Signs for progressive club, has decent cameo in the play off final. Not premiership level so loaned out - fair enough. Does well so is recalled and loaned to a higher level, and does well there as well.
Is then back with his parent club but told he will be moved on if a replacement can be brought in. From his point of view what more is he meant to do??
A replacement can't be found, so he his kept on, but told to fight for his place. No idea what he's like in training, but he isn't given an opportunity to show what he can do on the pitch, so I can imagine he might well be frustrated
+1. It’s poor from Edwards. What more can Taylor have done last season? Fair enough that the Huddersfield move didn’t work out, but to treat Taylor so poorly sends out a bad message to other young players potentially interested in joining.
If Taylor wasn’t even tried v QPR in the Carabao, it says Edwards doesn’t want him. Of course Taylor might not be the answer, but we’ll never know either way under Edwards. If a player is sent out on loan to gain experience, exceeds expectations, but is then kept on the bench, not played and is first to be dropped from the matchday squad without having any chance at showing what he can do: what message does that send to young L1/L2 talent?
They will probably look at the likes of Adebayo and Doughty and say, "Hey, not sure about what Taylor is doing there but it's obvious they will give you a chance there".
None are from lower divisions. Mengi and Walters have done well, absolutely, but they came from Big Six clubs and weren’t loaned out elsewhere. The point remains: Taylor was loaned out elsewhere, exceeded expectations yet remains frozen out. So, why join Luton under Edwards if you’re a promising player at a lower division club? (IFair play to Edwards for giving Nelson and Johnson a chance, but they’re homegrown talent. Fwiw, I’ve said here before it’s an attribute Edwards has over Jones.)
So, you think that none of that would register in the mind of a young player at a league one club just because Joe Taylor didn't make it? The fact that Luton has a reputation for buying cheap and developing players is all trashed because of one player?
I just don't see it as anything significant, when people see the likes of Harford being involved, see how we're investing in the academy, see how we're not splashing out big fees on players, see young players being given a pathway and opportunity I think they'll not assign that much importance to Taylor.
And they might have seen what Nelson did in that precise cup game . . . young player . . . given a chance despite a bit of an error against Burnley . . .
Likewise, when your main strikers haven’t been especially prolific (Eli has managed just 2 goals in 15 games, and collectively the four of them have scored only 8 goals in 2,300 minutes, according to Transfermarkt), it does seem quite tough that Taylor has only been given an average of 12 minutes in the few appearances he's made.
We've been more than generous with some of the others, allowing them plenty of time to play themselves back into form, it could be argued o the detriment of the team at times. Does the manager really rate Taylor that lowly?
If Taylor was the messiah do you not think RE would play him, given the situation we find ourselves in. Do you honestly think RE would rather lose his job than be proved wrong about Taylor. They obviously don’t rate him and they see him everyday not just in clips on YouTube from his loan spells. He’s either not ready or a complete prick in training , otherwise he’d have had more game time.
Agreed the recruitment has been piss poor. I think January will bring this too a close and he’ll be on his way. As someone else said if he didn’t play him against QPR in the cup he’s never going to play him.
Suprised no one on hear heard about preseason bust up between St Alfie of the Crap Set Piece, and Taylor? Appears St Alfie can dish rough stuff out, but can't take it, and when management sided with the Saint, they couldn't take the colourful response from Taylor, and that's why he's not picked. Could be utter tosh, but could very well explain his absence?
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