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Edwards
Posted by Madhatter on 12/11/2024, 8:44:59
After that game sat and his interview !!. Im coming to think is it wise to let him go now?.
Yes its been awful on the pitch but i feel everybody in that club should get together and put how they all feel on the table.some things not right behind the secenes.
Not happy with the way we are playing like all Luton supporters at the moment. But if we did just sack Edwards it could affect us more on the field.
Re: Edwards
Posted by homer on 12/11/2024, 12:22:29, in reply to "Edwards "
He should go before our next match
Re: Edwards
Posted by Tosser on 12/11/2024, 10:57:03, in reply to "Edwards "
Edwards is going to be a good coach, he needs an arm around him now and some support.
I would question his backroom staff more than I would him, they should be supporting him and giving him guidance.
I am pretty sure there will be a lot of internal discussions going on between Edwards, the coaching staff, Big Mick and the board about how we move forward.
For me we need to strengthen our defensive coaching, we are so disorganised defensively with defenders pressing high up the pitch, in the oppositions half at times leaving us vulnerable to the straight ball through the channels.
Whatever fans think I believe that the board believe in Edwards and know that with the right support he can get throough this difficult time.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Cuba on 12/11/2024, 8:56:39, in reply to "Edwards "
I think many agree with this but at the same time something has to change to give us a chance to survive getting into a serious relegation battle.
We can’t just keep winning the occasional game and then getting humiliated in the rest.
We could be here at the same place after the Leeds or Norwich game.
The game plan has to chance, the players have to start playing responsibly and Edwards has to eat humble pie and forgive Taylor for whatever he has potentially done to upset him.
Re: Edwards
Posted by FHFB on 12/11/2024, 9:51:13, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
The coaches (and recruitment team) don't think Taylor us good enough for the championship. So he isn't going to play unless we have a lot of injury problems up front.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Notorious D on 12/11/2024, 9:57:44, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
It was Mick that signed him, so he clearly does rate him. I suspect it’s more that the manager doesn’t rate him/personality clash.
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 10:33:37, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
We often sign players based on potential, for good reason.
What Mick / the recruitment team thought he could achieve back when we signed him and what they think he is capable of now might be very different things.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Notorious D on 12/11/2024, 10:14:52, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
You’re arguing the point on semantics now. They brought him to the club nearly 2 years ago, with the premise of him being a championship level forward, therefore if they don’t think he’s ‘good enough for the champ, then that means ‘they don’t rate him’.
I disagree with you that the recruitment team ‘don’t deem him good enough for the championship’. It’s the manager and the coaches that select the match day squads.
What makes you think the recruitment team don’t think he’s up to it?
Re: Edwards
Posted by FHFB on 12/11/2024, 11:37:47, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Word of mouth
Re: Edwards
Posted by FHFB on 12/11/2024, 9:59:36, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
No one said Harford didn't rate him, that is very different to them not thinking he is good enough currently for Championship football
Re: Edwards
Posted by HuN on 12/11/2024, 9:55:52, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
If the coaches don't think Taylor is good enough for the championship, maybe the coaches are the ones that need to go.
Re: Edwards
Posted by HH on 12/11/2024, 9:54:22, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Fine.
The move him on. Get him playing time elsewhere. Why keep him? There was loads of interest apparently in the summer, why persist with him in the squad if he's not good enough?
Re: Edwards
Posted by FHFB on 12/11/2024, 10:00:23, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Only kept him as they failed to bring another striker in over the summer and didn't want to leave us short in case of injuries.
Re: Edwards
Posted by HH on 12/11/2024, 9:47:27, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Whatever the merits of Taylor (and I think we all agree it's been discussed to death and beyond on here) my main issue with the strikers is we've 5 of them.
That seems excessive considering we've not enough cover for some other positions.
The squad is unbalanced.
FIVE?????
Posted by Cuba on 12/11/2024, 10:01:51, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
I can only count four:
Brown Eli Morris Taylor
Woodrow is not and never has been an out and out striker.
Quite why Edwards doesn’t see that is bizarre.
Woodrow would be cover for Clark, at best.
Re: FIVE?????
Posted by HH on 12/11/2024, 10:04:55, in reply to "FIVE?????"
He's still a forward, whether he's an out and out striker or not.
I'm not sure how you seem him as cover for Clark?
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 9:54:04, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
I doubt you'll find many squads with less than five strikers . . . I thought that was pretty much the standard number.
Re: Edwards
Posted by HH on 12/11/2024, 9:57:21, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
I thought you based a squad on two players for each position.
We didn't have that many out and out forwards in the squad last year?
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 10:04:24, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Hmm, I'm thinking possibly of international squads, have seen that number mentioned frequently there in the past and adhered to.
Must admit I haven't got time to go round the league's squads to see :-)
But given we play two up front I don't think five strikers is unreasonable. Listed on the website we have twelve defenders (inc Lockyer admisttedly) for 5 places and 8 midfielders for about 3 places.
Re: Edwards
Posted by HH on 12/11/2024, 10:07:34, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Yeah fair enough.
My overall gripe is that I don't see the point of Taylor being one of the 5 if you're never going to play him.
If all of the others were injured, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Rob just stuck Chong up front as a lone striker to chase balls down.
It just feels a waste for us and for him. I'm not saying he's the answer whatsoever, but what's the point of him being here right now?
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 10:18:49, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Well I think it's clear that the plan was for him not to still be here. That didn't work out so now he's in as fifth striker.
I'm sure if the other four were injured we'd see him play but as far as I can see the only argument here is over whether he should be ahead of Woodrow or not and I don't think that's anywhere near as clear cut as some people / countries seem to think.
Got to say I was hoping to see more of him but clearly the data and/or management / coaching opinion is that he is behind the others.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Well on 12/11/2024, 10:32:04, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
As shown the data or coaching decisions can be way off.
I’m not sure about him if I’m honest but Woodrow I am sure about.
It does seem personal from the outside and that’s unprofessional at any level if true.
The lack of pace in this team is cringing when you add in our inability to keep possession.
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 10:36:01, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Well I would simply say that it would be very unreasonable to move to having an opinion of someone behaving in an "unprofessional" way based purely on the ifs, buts and maybes you have at your disposal.
Especially when that person has proved themselves a strong leader of considerable empathy in the past . . .
Re: Edwards
Posted by Well on 12/11/2024, 10:42:01, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
He doesn’t seem the type to hold grudges and it’s all a mystery.
Like everyone else I’m just guessing but it is bizarre.
The hoof style we play might also be the reason but I’d like to give him a chance with Morris to see if it works.
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 11:41:00, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
To be honest so would I, I was pretty excited to see what Taylor could do this year.
For whatever reason it isn't working out and I'm guessing he will go in the Jan window while we get someone else in.
Re: Edwards
Posted by The Questioner on 12/11/2024, 14:41:40, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
It’s noticeable how we don’t seem to be able to break with pace…Obegne is obviously missed and on that basis I would give him a go. Also Nelson I would argue is very attacking so another forward.
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 15:15:24, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Agreed, I thought we might keep Onyedinma for that reason but obviously not.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 12/11/2024, 9:31:53, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Can you manage to post without mentioning Taylor, bet you can't
Re: Edwards
Posted by Cuba on 12/11/2024, 9:37:31, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Woodrow makes my blood boil.
He is slow, awkward, profligate and yet we have him a new contract last summer and he seems to be a managers favourite.
In a division when pace is so clearly an advantage, our fastest players (now Obgene has gone) is kicking his heels.
Those two up front on Saturday were simply not good enough.
Re: Edwards
Posted by bbb on 12/11/2024, 9:53:16, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
A player for a football team who's games you rarely attend makes your blood boil? Seriously mate, take a step back before you have a stroke.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Cuba on 12/11/2024, 10:39:56, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Why don’t we meet for a sandwich next time you are down?
Cheese, Ham, Prawns - whatever you fancy. My shout.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 12/11/2024, 10:25:37, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Re: Edwards
Posted by Cuba on 12/11/2024, 9:59:32, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Have been to more games that you this season based on your recent midweek boycott.
Re: Edwards
Posted by bbb on 12/11/2024, 10:18:49, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
If you say so!!
Blood boil indeed 🙈
Re: Edwards
Posted by Cuba on 12/11/2024, 10:22:13, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
He has the movement and poise of a poor man’s Peter Thomson.
Re: Edwards
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 12/11/2024, 10:26:55, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
So you weren't going to games back then either
Re: Edwards
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/11/2024, 9:43:49, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
You're right about Woodrow. But not about anything else.
Re: Edwards
Posted by MG on 12/11/2024, 9:43:11, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Profligate?
Re: Edwards
Posted by If you say so on 12/11/2024, 8:55:54, in reply to "Edwards "
Re: Edwards
Posted by Hatter66 on 12/11/2024, 9:17:18, in reply to "Re: Edwards "
Taylor hype is getting boring. There are more problems than 1 position....
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