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Some honesty from club

Posted by Russy on 10/11/2024, 10:23:45

Someone needs to explain how we can spend a season in the Premier, get relegated with parachute payments and invest nothing in the playing squad.

The maths don't add up.

In addition we sold Barkley 6 mil, Giles 4 mil, ogbene 8 mil and reduced our squad size, losing Osho, kabore, lokonga, berry

We spent 6 mil on Mguiness and brought in second rate frees.

Oh apparently the stadium was financed prior to pro.otion

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by homer on 10/11/2024, 13:33:15, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

They dont like spending money to get success

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Troll on 10/11/2024, 11:53:40, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

Out of interest, have you clicked any of the links at the top of the page and asked yourself? Or do you just want views from some mad and old hasbeens like me on an anonymous message board?

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by MH9 on 10/11/2024, 11:35:47, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

We spent some big money for us to try to stay up in the Premier League and held on ti players that probably cost a lot of money.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by 4life on 10/11/2024, 11:28:24, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

You don’t get to dictate who does what. The stadium was financed and since then changed design and been refinanced. All completely paid for. We readjusted the squad given the fact we no longer play in “the best league in the world”.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 10/11/2024, 10:56:06, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

The consensus when we got promoted was that the Premier riches were free money that should be used to guarantee the long term future of the club, rather than spending millions on Ben Brereton Diaz or whoever to chase a few years as a yo-yo club.

We're a club that plays in a falling-down ground, went bust twice in the last 20 years and probably came closer than any of us realised to going bust again during lockdown.

We've been shit this season. Tactics, fitness, morale, all clearly big problems. I don't think that's any reason to rip up the overall strategic priorities of the club as a business and community asset.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Fortress Town on 10/11/2024, 12:52:34, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

It doesn't seem as if the club actually committed themselves to the strategy, though. Everything seems to be straddling some middle ground.

The 2 main choices were taking risks to stay up/go straight back up, or to take stock, consolidate, and aim for a 2027/8 push back to the Prem with seriously solid foundations.

We seem to be in the territory of the latter, but aren't making the right noises about it. The whole atmosphere and communication of the club needs to go back into fortress mode.

Mengi should've been offloaded at his peak value, and more players like Holmes hoovered up from the Championship, who are hungry for success and their shot at the big time.

Anybody who was linked to a big club move is going to struggle motivating themselves for a Championship relegation push.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 10/11/2024, 13:41:54, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

That's a reasonable critique, and one I'd give more time to than Russy's original post.

I don't think any of us know what happened with Mengi. If his value was met, if a buyer pulled out at the last moment, if we decided not to sell because of missing other targets, if the intention was always to keep him.

In general, I wouldn't over-analyse individual players and individual decisions. Overall, the strategy since promotion has been quite clear; prioritise building the foundations of the club, while keeping a competitive but relatively cheap team. As Sweet said in the summer, last year's transfer business was done with 2 or 3 years in mind and most of those players (Andersen, Brown, Chong, Kaminski) are still around.

Certain players and transfers haven't worked out as planned, there have been mistakes, we've been riddled with injuries, the team is massively underperforming on the pitch. But I don't think the overall strategy is the wrong one.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Accountant on 10/11/2024, 10:33:58, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

Check the bank account of GS

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by FFS on 10/11/2024, 10:54:18, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

he's an employee not an owner

Spot on

Posted by Hatter 1 on 10/11/2024, 10:30:50, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

Spot on

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Just on 10/11/2024, 10:29:41, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

This one's been done

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Cuba on 10/11/2024, 10:27:45, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

PC increased capacity by 7.5k must be a fundamental reason for the lack of investment.

But don’t worry we will “give away” 5000 tickets per game so not highlight the monumental flaw in the changed design.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Ticket Iffice on 10/11/2024, 10:53:53, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

More like 10k give away for each game. 50 tickets per local school
as per the piss pot paint trophy

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Music Critic on 10/11/2024, 10:34:20, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

You're loving this ain't ya? Loving it. On here like a vulture picking at the bones of every defeat. Hardly saw you after Watford

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by pingu on 10/11/2024, 10:59:43, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

In one mate.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Cuba on 10/11/2024, 10:38:09, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

Beating Watford cannot be the limit of our ambition.

These issues have been so obvious throughout 2024.

Watford beat us 4-0 and we ended up getting promotion, currently the boot is on the other foot.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Music Critic on 10/11/2024, 10:43:08, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Point spectacularly missed

You're nowhere when we win a game and spend 24 hours on here when we get beat. Now starting to have a go about the new stadium.

You're loving it. Absolutely revelling in it. In my book that is cuntish for a Luton fan to be taking glee in this shit. Except, I don't think you're a Luton fan. Or, you're a Luton fan with an angle, which I asked you about before and you never responded

So, in a thread entitled 'some honesty from the club', let's have some honesty about/from you

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Cuba on 10/11/2024, 10:58:41, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Here we go again.

Deflect and insult rather than agree we are in a mess.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Music Critic on 10/11/2024, 11:01:19, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Check my posts for my views. You're talking shit. I ain't covering for anything

Insulting? You're being cuntish for loving watching us get beat and struggle so you can drive your agenda. That's not an insult. That's fact

Answer the question

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Cuba on 10/11/2024, 11:19:51, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

“My agenda”

Poor transfers windows particularly when a better one in January could have kept us up.

And the deflectors and distractors on here who seem to be more intent on taking the heat off GS then getting answers to why January was such a disaster.

Edwards said we would end the month stronger. His words not mine.

This season’s malaise stems from that.

We end up signing injury prone sub standard players when we have millions in the bank.

I think that is a fair enough reason to have an “agenda”

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Music Critic on 10/11/2024, 11:30:59, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

And, if you were paying attention, you would know I agreed with much of what you said. The last 2 transfer windows were poor.

Thing is, I don't keep going on about it 24 hours a day, most days. But you're obsessed. It's incessant. Nowhere when we're winning, on here like a shot when we're losing. Saying the same old stuff and now you're taking pot shots about the stadium and looking at the absolute extreme negative scenario for that too

And you're taking enjoyment from it. You love us getting beat and struggling.

Most people who constructively complain, I don't have a problem with, as I understand and share some of their concerns. The majority of critical voices are genuine and just deflated with how things are unravelling and want to discuss why and what needs to be done to fix things. But you're different. There is just something a bit 'off' with you.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Cuba on 10/11/2024, 11:53:52, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Enjoyment? A mind reader are you?

When you see a team sheet like yesterday’s you know what is coming and it stinks.

I didn’t mind when we had little or no money as it was part of the fun to challenge better off clubs with few resources.

But we are now cash rich and even made a profit in the last transfer window, but nobody dare ask how this could ever happen and why despite this we buy crocks and players at the very end of their career.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Troll on 10/11/2024, 12:13:12, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

https://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/msg/1731239621.html

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Music Critic on 10/11/2024, 12:03:39, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

I can read your mind

Nobody dare ask how this could happen? People are asking the question all the time on here? FFS

Email the club yourself. Email journalists. If you're that bothered, act instead of whining on here all day every day

Except, that would not allow you to grandstand on here with your 'look at me' routine nor would it allow you to drive your agenda on a public forum

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Undislosed & injury prone on 10/11/2024, 11:23:16, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Players welcome at LTFC with 40 plus coaches.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Paddy Hatter on 10/11/2024, 10:26:50, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

I'm glad we're using the money to secure the future of the club. The problem is how what we have spent and what we have in the squad is performing.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by RADSB on 10/11/2024, 10:25:41, in reply to "Some honesty from club"

You said all this yesterday.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Russy on 10/11/2024, 10:27:57, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Yes it's an obvious statement that no-one at the club has addressed

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by RADSB on 10/11/2024, 10:31:49, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

It's all been addressed on here many times.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Cuba on 10/11/2024, 10:34:17, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Has it really been addressed by 2020 though?

That doesn’t include the propaganda trotted out on here to deflect criticism of the club and manager.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by RADSB on 10/11/2024, 10:35:10, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Propaganda

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Ok on 10/11/2024, 10:38:49, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

What else would you call it? Gary's disciples spouting the narrative on here. Covering up deflecting from the bullshit.

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Music Critic on 10/11/2024, 10:35:01, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Obsessed

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Russy on 10/11/2024, 10:33:03, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

On here, great
By the club ?

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by RADSB on 10/11/2024, 10:34:10, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

You expect the club to reply to you on here!

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by Russy on 10/11/2024, 10:37:21, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

No. But it needs to be addressed at some level, instead of all the bullshit and deflection

Re: Some honesty from club

Posted by RADSB on 10/11/2024, 10:46:18, in reply to "Re: Some honesty from club"

Bullshit, on here! Really? But yes, we need a reset. RE will resign today or tomorrow I expect. The club & new manager will address it all so we can get behind the lads & escape relegation.

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