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    Questions for Gary Sweet

    Posted by Outlier on 9/11/2024, 17:49:30

    Why didn't we replace Tom Lockyer with a leader ?
    Why were we so cautious in the January transfer window ?
    Why was the pre season tour just a players jolly ?
    Why were we so inept in the summer transfer window ?
    Has the new ground been prioritised over the development of the team ?
    Do you regret giving RE a 4 year contract ?
    Do you think free transfer sick notes are a way forward ?

      Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

      Posted by First one back on 9/11/2024, 18:23:39, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

      Who do you suggest

        Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

        Posted by Hackwatch on 9/11/2024, 18:21:00, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

        surely are questions for the head of recruitment??

          Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

          Posted by HuN on 9/11/2024, 18:01:20, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

          I admire your conviction to be on here all night pressing 'refresh' so you catch Gary answering you.

            Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

            Posted by T on 9/11/2024, 17:58:50, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

            Nobody ever does business in January.

              Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

              Posted by Dave on 9/11/2024, 18:06:22, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

              Why was our summer business so poor? Rob was told he had to sell to fund new players.

              We sold Ross for £5m
              Giles for £4m
              Ogbene for £8m
              Townsend for undisclosed.

              And signed free transfer injury prone players, and McGuiness for £5m. Piss poor. And January is a tough window to recruit in so on that basis there will be fuck all happening after Christmas to improve the situation.

                Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                Posted by Hatsworth on 9/11/2024, 18:09:16, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                “Rob was told he had to sell to fund new players”. And you know that how exactly?

                  Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                  Posted by bbb on 9/11/2024, 18:20:03, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                  It's true.

                    Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                    Posted by Really? on 9/11/2024, 18:45:50, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                    Source?

                    A lot of what you say is shit stirring crap but occasionally you're right.

                    So let's hear it, from your high tower in Macclesfield where you know everything that happens in Luton

                      Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                      Posted by bbb on 9/11/2024, 18:55:46, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                      Ooooo, look at you. You know who I am yet cry like a little bitch about me anonymously on here. Pathetic.
                      Who told me knows. I don't have to prove anything to a spineless dribbler on here.

                      Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                      Posted by Hatsworth on 9/11/2024, 18:36:38, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                      Cool story. Seriously, how do you actually know this?

                      Seriously, if rob (or one of the staff) has been bleating about this it might make the difference between the club having to pay up his contract or gross misconduct. That’s a lot of money potentially.

                      Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                      Posted by Dave on 9/11/2024, 18:10:25, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                      Oh I know it ok. It’s a fact.

                Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                Posted by jimmyp on 9/11/2024, 17:57:04, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

                Because January's a notoriously difficult transfer window in which to find genuine quality without paying WAY over the odds.

                Because January's a notoriously difficult transfer window in which to find genuine quality without paying WAY over the odds.

                Much the same as the last few, wasn't it. Just some of it got filmed.

                As evidenced by what?

                The new ground is what is going to pay for the team for the next 100 odd years. What do you think.

                Probably not, especially if Wolves poach him.

                It's the best way for us to get genuine quality. If they weren't a gamble, we wouldn't be able to afford them. Considering your post is predicated on a desire to get back to and stay in the Premier League, a team of Tom Holmes* level players is not going to achieve it.

                Just stop.

                Cheers, Jim

                *With the best will in the world.

                  Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                  Posted by m on 9/11/2024, 18:18:21, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                  Only chance you have in Jan is players who's contracts are up in June, clubs might be willing to sell and at least get some money back.
                  Or you pay massively over the odds.

                    Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                    Posted by town the pan on 9/11/2024, 18:09:08, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                    Paying way over the odds still would've seen value.

                    We could've paid £20mil for someone worth £15mil. That £5mil 'loss' would easily have been offset by the improving our chances of premier league survival and increasing the entire value of the squad through adding experience.

                    Doughty and Ogbene's values increased because of the presence of Barkley. He activated them, and probably added £5mil on to the squad. Barkley himself playing well in front of global cameras in a low pressure environment also bagged us £5mil.

                    If we'd have had a similar player in defence, we would've been buying a chance to see the same thing happen.

                    How much money should we realistically have invested in January for a chance of securing £150mil? Could a Lockyer replacement have prevented 5 silly goals from going in? If we held off Bournemouth, we would've been half way to safety. Throw in a win against Newcastle and we're basically there.

                      Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                      Posted by jimmyp on 9/11/2024, 18:14:04, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                      Er, it literally wouldn't.

                      Only if we'd stayed up, if we didn't it's a loss.

                      £5m is absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme.

                      Who? How? How much in wages? If is doing a lot of work, there.

                      A 'chance'? That's really rather the point isn't it. For a 'guarantee', fucking loads. But for a 'chance' much, much, much, less.

                      Cheers, Jim

                        There's No Certainties in Investment

                        Posted by town the pan on 9/11/2024, 18:21:16, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                        You look at the odds given your resources and those around you and invest accordingly.

                        Not replacing Lockyer already depreciated the value of our assets through causing chaos in defence and collectively reducing their value).

                        An experienced rock of a CB was the most obvious investment in the world at that point. Spending a hypothetical £5mil (20mil paid - 15mil true value) would've paid off if it had given us an extra 3.33%pts chance of survival (150 prem money / 5mil loss on signing).

                          Re: There's No Certainties in Investment

                          Posted by jimmyp on 9/11/2024, 18:24:27, in reply to "There's No Certainties in Investment"

                          Only if it actually worked.

                          Who was available for that sort of money?

                          Why are you citing odds, do our board strike you as the sort of people who take a punt with millions of pounds on the basis of a notional increase in chance plucked out of the arse of some berk on a messageboard.

                          Cheers, Jim

                            Re: There's No Certainties in Investment

                            Posted by town the pan on 9/11/2024, 18:30:11, in reply to "Re: There's No Certainties in Investment"

                            You're making ridiculous statements.

                            It's impossible to know if something has worked at the point of investing.

                            You only buy %chances based on research.

                            My original point is that we were in a position to pay 'over the odds' in the market, because we had huge value to be made up elsewhere, which other clubs didn't have.

                            No other club in the world were in a position like us where they had a serious chance of securing HUGE cash relative to their club's value.

                            Not sure what the ad hominem achieves either. It's a message board. Are posts actually discussing football to be discouraged here, or?

                              Re: There's No Certainties in Investment

                              Posted by jimmyp on 9/11/2024, 22:15:04, in reply to "Re: There's No Certainties in Investment"

                              One of us is and it's not the (handsome) one who actually knows what 'ad hominem' means.

                              Cheers, Jim

                        Easy to see

                        Posted by m on 9/11/2024, 18:12:39, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                        From the size of his waistline these days where the money has gone.

                          Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                          Posted by Hatsworth on 9/11/2024, 18:11:41, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                          And is the issue. “We” weren’t putting money in, were we. So it’s very easy to sit here and say “we” should just have spent five million more pounds, but it’s not US, is it?

                          And playing football manager doesn’t count.

                          Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                          Posted by Titch Spotter on 9/11/2024, 18:07:54, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                          Straw clutching at its finest.

                          Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                          Posted by Matt McHatter on 9/11/2024, 18:06:04, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                          "Waiting for Wolves". Now that's a cool name for a band.

                          How about "Blind Panic" or "Massive Pyle"? Are they available or not?

                            Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                            Posted by jimmyp on 9/11/2024, 18:07:47, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                            I'm absolutely certain there will have been a band called "Blind Panic".

                            Cheers, Jim

                          Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                          Posted by Dave on 9/11/2024, 17:53:32, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

                          Why are you continually avoiding meeting with loyal Luton?

                            Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                            Posted by Matt McHatter on 9/11/2024, 17:52:40, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

                            These should be questions for Gary's boss because the buck stops with whoever guards the current guardian.

                              Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                              Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 9/11/2024, 17:52:04, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

                              Gary Sweet are you related to Pinkey

                                Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                                Posted by Bob morton on 9/11/2024, 18:11:00, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                                Gary Kohler is not in any way related to that Pinkney fella

                                  Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                                  Posted by Hatsworth on 9/11/2024, 18:07:53, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                                  Are you absolutely joking?

                                  This might be an effort at irony (if so, woosh) and I am not saying that anyone is above facing questions, but anyone that has genuinely been around long enough to remember Pinkney should be ashamed of themselves for suggesting any parallels whatsoever.

                                  They may have done things differently in hindsight, but the one thing that is entirely beyond reproach is their commitment to a strong and healthy football club for all of us associated with it.

                                    Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                                    Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 9/11/2024, 18:15:43, in reply to "Re: Questions for Gary Sweet"

                                    Pinkey had plenty £ come in..never spent out

                                  Re: Questions for Gary Sweet

                                  Posted by Gary Sour on 9/11/2024, 17:51:27, in reply to "Questions for Gary Sweet"

                                  Please do not question me.

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