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    Building confidence

    Posted by Gothenburg Hatter on 7/11/2024, 8:17:31

    No doubting that the 3 points were more important than the performance. It gives the team and Rob a little breathing space ahead of a tough set of fixtures.
    A solid defence is the key to any good team and it now looks like we may be on the way to having that with options and competition for places. Been a very long time since we could say that. Yesterday Cardiff never looked like scoring.
    Now we need to build on that and get our attacking play up to speed. We are too reliant on goals from set piece plays, which makes us too one dimensional.
    Middlesbrough away is a tough one especially with it being an early kick off. Hopefully Rob will have learnt from the Coventry game.
    Anyway crazy league. If we could now put a run together we'll shoot up the League.

      Re: Building confidence

      Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 8:29:23, in reply to " Building confidence "

      Anyway crazy league. If we could now put a run together we'll shoot up the League.

      It's a poor league. Aside from Burnley, who have now lost 2 or 3 players from when they played us, I haven't been impressed by anyone I've seen this season. And, yes, I know we ain't been great either

      Maybe I'm holding teams to higher standards after what we watched last season but Millwall, Watford and WBA in or very near the play-off zone? Sunderland top? Fucking hell

        Re: Building confidence

        Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 7/11/2024, 10:14:59, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

        It's a poor league and that includes us

          Re: Building confidence

          Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 10:25:37, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

          As I said, we haven't been great either

          Re: Building confidence

          Posted by bbb on 7/11/2024, 10:11:34, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

          It's a competitive league but agree the standard isn't great this season from what I've seen.

            Re: Building confidence

            Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 10:19:50, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

            Yeah that's what I meant

            A competitive league but largely because no-one in it is particularly good

            Re: Building confidence

            Posted by MG on 7/11/2024, 9:50:00, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

            Every year . . . we are in a poor league . . . how come we don't do better eh?

              Re: Building confidence

              Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 10:17:20, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

              Sorry?

                Re: Building confidence

                Posted by MG on 7/11/2024, 10:27:22, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                Every single year, even last, it's stated on here that we are in a "poor league". Just suggesting how lucky we are that this is always the case. Always.

                  Re: Building confidence

                  Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 10:32:32, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                  Oh I see what you mean.

                  Well if you can find evidence where I, personally, have said that then fine. Because I didn't say it last season nor any season since our last season (hopefully last season ever) in L2

                  Granted I have seen others say that stuff even last season, which was clearly mad

                    Re: Building confidence

                    Posted by MG on 7/11/2024, 10:47:18, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                    I said "it's stated on here".

                    I didn't say you said it personally.

                    I just think, generally speaking, we are developing a bit of a habit of not giving the team credit where it's due while we are happy to criticise them.

                      Re: Building confidence

                      Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 11:31:14, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                      Fair enough

                      However, I think a lot of the criticism comes from giving the squad credit. Or, should I say, showing faith. This season I am convinced we have a top 8 squad even though, for whatever reason(s), we ain't shown that enough... at least, not yet.

                      So, there is credit/faith/whatever we call it but that's also a reason why many of us feel a bit deflated about the poor start

                      If anything maybe I'm guilty of giving the team too much credit or thinking they're better than they are. I don't think that's the case but I know others will have a different view, which is fine

                        Re: Building confidence

                        Posted by MG on 7/11/2024, 11:37:25, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                        Fair enough, I do remember saying at the start of the season that pretty much anything could happen. And I tend to agree with you, I definitely feel we've got a "top half" squad there potentially.

                        But I think a lot has gone wrong for us with injuries and players trying to come back from them. How many times have we started with the same back line in consecutive games for example?

                        I think last night suggests we can be good defensively. If we can keep most of the players fit I feel confident we will rise up the table. Not sure quite how far but at the moment I do feel confident.

                        That said, we do have some very tough games coming up. But everyone said they wanted to see signs of improvement and Coventry aside we have shown that in the last few games.

                          Re: Building confidence

                          Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 11:53:42, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                          Fair points

                        Re: Building confidence

                        Posted by Um on 7/11/2024, 10:59:58, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                        I think sone mentioned last season being pike because the 3 promoted teams stayed up abd3 established teams went down. Which proved rubbish because the 3 promoted teams all went down.🤪

                          Re: Building confidence

                          Posted by MG on 7/11/2024, 11:33:36, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                          Yes, to be fair we all end up convincing ourselves sometimes on pretty flimsy reasons.

                      Re: Building confidence

                      Posted by bbb on 7/11/2024, 10:31:29, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                      Grow up ffs.

                        Re: Building confidence

                        Posted by MG on 7/11/2024, 10:45:12, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                        Coming from you, that is priceless.

                    Re: Building confidence

                    Posted by hatters1988 on 7/11/2024, 10:01:48, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                    We did....for nigh on ten years on the trot. This being the first season of many where we will finish in a lower position than the last.

                      Re: Building confidence

                      Posted by MG on 7/11/2024, 10:04:06, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                      Indeed, but that's kind of missing the point

                    Re: Building confidence

                    Posted by Ches Fordroad on 7/11/2024, 8:38:14, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                    The Scoddy Parker effect really starting to kick in at Burnley now ...... we were unlucky to play them before he could really start to have an impact on them.

                    It's strange league though; we've done better against - by the current league table at least which, according to some yesterday, was THE ORACLE - better teams.

                      Re: Building confidence

                      Posted by Music Critic on 7/11/2024, 10:22:57, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                      We were unlucky to play them when we did

                      To be fair to Parker he has been forced to sell but I know what you mean

                    Re: Building confidence

                    Posted by Ronnies Finget on 7/11/2024, 8:28:33, in reply to " Building confidence "

                    Agree with all of that , but especially the one dimensional attacking threat.
                    Sorry to this , but the way Rob has set the team up to play , I don’t think we will see any different this season.

                    It’s why Taylor has not been given a chance, it’s not his game.
                    Our goals will have to come from the set piece route, Chong and Clarke are trying hard to provide a different solution driving through midfield, and I admire them as at least they give us something, but are just too lightweight to offer that threat consistently.
                    Defence as you say is now becoming stronger.
                    A Boring mid table finish, is the realistic aim, which many on here said they would be happy with?

                      Re: Building confidence

                      Posted by Fife Hatter on 7/11/2024, 8:44:48, in reply to "Re: Building confidence "

                      True that we are pretty one dimensional but, Morris had a goal ruled offside when he was on a one on one, at least twice Eli got beyond the back 4 with balls played through or turning the defender and just couldn't sort his size 13s out. We are sort of getting there but this comes from the solid foundations of a back line.

                      Re: Building confidence

                      Posted by Madhatter on 7/11/2024, 8:27:46, in reply to " Building confidence "

                      +1

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