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A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 14:25:22

It's been a month since we were promised an update within a month.

I suppose really they have until the end of the day but I won't hold my breath.

Don't promise deadlines you can't keep Gazza.

Re: A month

Posted by Round Green Hatter on 12/9/2024, 15:08:46, in reply to "A month "

Or what?

Re: A month

Posted by Armchair hatter on 12/9/2024, 15:03:45, in reply to "A month "

They didnt say within which month

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 14:45:43, in reply to "A month "

Are you seriously 'counting down the hours' to have yet another go at Sweet and 2020?

If it was a day or 48 hours later would that actually matter to anyone but some shithead negative people who seem to want - why???? - to undermine the club?

It's coming, we know that. And there's plenty of physical evidence too.

Your last sentence - was that intended to sound like some sort of a pathetic playground style threat? Because it does.

I'd love to see you come out with this sort of shit negativity directly to GS, or any member of 2020.

But you wouldn't do that, would you?

Re: A month

Posted by Swiss Tony on 12/9/2024, 15:13:22, in reply to "Re: A month "

+1

Swiss

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 14:54:20, in reply to "Re: A month "

Fucking hell crumps, you don't half get defensive over him.

He said within a month. It hasn't been within a month. More and more people are asking questions because there are few updates and when they are the promises never happen.
I know what work is happening and where we are but people who don't get as involved don't and are wondering what's happening.

Of course it's not a threat you silly old sod. It's just a comment that if, in an official update, you say there will be an update within a month then from a business side it doesn't look great if you don't deliver.

I absolutely would say it to him. It's not negative to say 'GS, you said there would be an update within a month and there hasn't been - why is that?'.

I am sure there's perfectly valid reasons for why, but by saying there would be an update GS has opened himself up to these questions

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 15:02:25, in reply to "Re: A month "

Yes, I get defensive because I know he works his bollocks off and has done for years, while some lazy tossers who do fuck all sit back and snipe.

You really should be realistic about how negative you are on here, and what that means when people read it (and though GS doesn't, others do and are totally dismayed at some of the utter, destructive shit that's posted on here)

Grow up and think a bit, ffs.

I know you're too young to have ever got off your arse and done anything for this club, but the likes of GS and 2020 have gone well beyond the extra mile - and all they get from you, and some others, is shit. Fuck that.

Re: A month

Posted by Hazelnury Crescendo on 12/9/2024, 17:09:15, in reply to "Re: A month "

Have you ever considered that the lazy fuckers ( your words) might have real jobs that pay less than a tenth or more of Gary Sweets wages.

It is his job, and he gets paid for it. Just like the rest of us have full time jobs we get paid for.

You make it sound like he does it out of the goodness of his heart, and for free.

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 17:19:10, in reply to "Re: A month "

I've never implied that at all.

Though he did at the start, as it happens. And put all his money in too.

And I'm not for a minute saying other people don't work hard. I'm saying, to spell it out as clearly as I can, that some of the people who slate GS, 2020 and people who work hard to support the club on a voluntary basis - eg the Trust - do absolutely fuck all to help, but instead just moan and spread negativity

Re: A month

Posted by The Questioner on 13/9/2024, 9:48:07, in reply to "Re: A month "

Did he put all his money in - fair play as don’t think he was a wealthy man.

You know better than most but I had understood he was instrumental in getting the investors together but didn’t actually invest?

Re: A month

Posted by Ches Fordroad on 12/9/2024, 15:33:01, in reply to "Re: A month "

Not sure how these younger folk would've coped with the likes of Smith, Evans, Kohler or Gurney

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 15:23:43, in reply to "Re: A month "

I can't help my age crumps and I think I've done as much as I can for the club given that.

Yes some posts on here are perhaps made for more sinister and destructive reasons and I can see why those would piss people off.

I am negative on here around the kit - which is undeniably a farce- and the lack of communication *.

I don't think they are unreasonable, and if people from the club think pointing out a lack of kit or lack of updates within the promised time is destructive then I don't really know what to say. They're not beyond question.

You're being aggressive over me pointing out GS has missed a deadline he set.

*And also the transfers but in the end I think we did good business

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 15:41:25, in reply to "Re: A month "

I'm being aggressive because I think you're being like a spoilt brat but with a very nasty ultra negative edge.

You really should be more honest about some of the stuff you've posted on here. Nasty attacks on GS, 2020, club employees, and the Trust. Even Loyal Luton and this message boards admin. Yes, one pleasant enough but obviously grudging post about the supporters groups when I pulled you up about it. The rest? Moaning negative shit. You even had a go at fans who applauded the team after West Ham. Remember what you said then? Absolute cuntishness.

So, given that you've slated everyone who actually does something positive what exactly is this 'as much as I can for the club' that you claim to have done? I'm all ears, let's hear something positive from you.

(I will say one thing in your favour, at least you post all your shite as yourself, unlike some who haven't even got the gonads to do that)

Re: A month

Posted by Madpig on 12/9/2024, 19:45:38, in reply to "Re: A month "

Last point spot on.
The rest too, to be fair.

Re: A month

Posted by Just an observation on 12/9/2024, 16:10:09, in reply to "Re: A month "

I think the good Doctor is merely articulating what a lot of fans appear to be thinking. I am not sure how the comments can be viewed as negative when surely they are pointing out facts?

Re: A month

Posted by An Optimist on 12/9/2024, 16:34:02, in reply to "Re: A month "

Nice of you to pop up at just the right time to defend Doctor Love as though you were in alliance, or even his alias????

Re: A month

Posted by Just an observation on 12/9/2024, 17:03:28, in reply to "Re: A month "

No, just a person who happens to agree with Doctor Ince on this issue. Although, perhaps people in glass houses?

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 16:41:43, in reply to "Re: A month "

I don't do aliases, as Crumpsall acknowledges (although ironically this name came from an alias)

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 16:06:07, in reply to "Re: A month "

Is it spoilt to expect to have the new seasons kit in stock before September? Perhaps, but every other club manages it.

I don't think nasty. Perhaps you do, but it seems anything other than public fawning is nasty to you.

I wasn't impressed by the Trust when I joined, no. I have had some communication with them now and my opinion has improved slightly. I still don't think they question enough (my questions on kit ended up being referred to the club), and those on thr podcast seem happier to hint that they get some inside info than anything else.

Yes I don't think LL is the force it was. Pingu didn't seem offended in his response and hinted that it's mostly dormant until trouble - fine.

'obviously grudging' you can't just take whatever meaning you want from a post then state it as fact.

Yes I do remember after West ham. Perhaps a bit harsh but we seemed happy to accept relegation. I thought we were shit against West Ham in the second half. Yes last season was a free hit and a bit of fun but there were too many shit performances and that has bled into this season as well, which was my worry.

Not sure what I've said is nasty against GS or 2020.

Nothing significant compared to your peers. I have donated money every time a supporters club has asked. I rarely missed a game in the conference seasons, I donated season ticket money to the club. I've donated to SOLYD. I was in school for most of the Jayten era so not much else I could do really. Not quite tiddles or GS level stuff but as I say, I can't help when I'm born. The Club has had a significant chunks of my earnings for 15+ years

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 16:17:34, in reply to "Re: A month "

Now that all reads like you're being reasonable but unfortunately it doesn't reflect some of the really nasty stuff you've posted.

Unfortunately maybe I have a very good memory. So let's recall what you said when you spouted your bile after the West Ham game - justifiably disappointed with the performance of course. You not only had a go at the players but hinted at deeper issues and said that people applauding at the end were (and I quote) 'part of the problem' and attacked them too. Despite the fact you didn't see it, or the fantastic engagement between RE, players and fans as you'd already left (so you said at the time). What the hell is that but plain nasty and negative?

Just for once be honest about what you post. And remember, if you dish shit out on here you're going to get some back, so don't be so bloody precious about yourself

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 16:23:54, in reply to "Re: A month "

Have I been precious? I don't think so. I get plenty back on here.

Yes, the problem being shit performances were being rewarded by the fans, there didn't seem to be much consequence. I know what managers say in press conferences is often not quite what they actually think but RE often seemed to genuinely think we'd done ok. Imo we needed to be a bit harsher on the players at times.
Even against QPR some seemed to be clapping to over compensate for the boos.

I genuinely think we should've done better last season.

I left after that young lad for West Ham scored iirc. It was definitely after a goal.

I've been perfectly honest, and if I seem reasonable, perhaps it's because I have been all along

What nasty stuff about GS and 2020 have I posted?

Re: A month

Posted by Nearly s Genius on 12/9/2024, 16:37:31, in reply to "Re: A month "

Some of us supporters like to applaud the players after a match, whatever the result, to assure them that we’ll be there for them through thick and thin.

Re: A month

Posted by Ha ha on 12/9/2024, 17:18:01, in reply to "Re: A month "

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡

Re: A month

Posted by Nearly s Genius on 12/9/2024, 17:22:11, in reply to "Re: A month "

I’m sorry you don’t understand what being a supporter entails.

Re: A month

Posted by Malc on 12/9/2024, 19:24:42, in reply to "Re: A month "

I agree, NAG. Yes clap to cover the boos!
The aggression shown by some to Rob after he applauded the crowd after QPR was horrible to witness.

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 16:30:15, in reply to "Re: A month "

Are you serious with that last line? Ffs!!

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 16:40:43, in reply to "Re: A month "

Yes you've said it a lot but I don't think I've posted anything nasty (which is a strong word imo). I've been critical of things but I don't think nasty.

So what, in your opinion, have I posted about GS and the board that is nasty?

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 16:45:04, in reply to "Re: A month "

Well, by implication, the last line of the first post on this thread, for starters...

Then there's the 'liar' line you like to use, as well.

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 16:53:28, in reply to "Re: A month "

Is saying you shouldn't make promises you can't keep nasty?

I over promised on a deadline at work once and got a bit of a bollocking. Wasn't nasty.

I don't think the club or Trust, by extension, are being truthful about the kits. I haven't said GS or 2020 are liars, just that the club in general, probably the commercial team, are.

Just be honest about why the kit situation is like it is, is all I'm asking. Would be nice to know when and if it will be in stock as well. Not nastyz just basic questions

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 17:04:07, in reply to "Re: A month "

Come off it, again you're pretending to be reasonable and pleasant when you know damn well - unless you have absolutely no self awareness - that you couch your complaints, moans and whines far from pleasantly 99% of the time.

Calling people 'liars' is hardly pleasant or neccessary is it?

And when you got that bollocking, it was presumably from your boss, someone who employs you and you know you have let down personally - not some faceless irrelevant bod on an anonymous messageboard, with an apparent overblown and unearned sense of privilege that seems to make him think he can get abusive?

Hardly the same.

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 17:11:45, in reply to "Re: A month "

I really don't see what's abusive.

The official line on the kits is demonstrably false. Pointing that out isn't abusive. As it's deliberately false I'm not sure what else to call it other than a lie.

I'm couching my complaints in the way I always do.

I'm not really sure where we're going with this tbh. I've don't think I've said anything 'nasty' about GS or 2020, and compared to some on here I don't think I've been that abusive either. All I'm doing in regards to kits and stadium updates is pointing out facts .

Re: A month

Posted by Hazelbury Crescendo on 12/9/2024, 17:14:07, in reply to "Re: A month "

Happened to be doing some work opposite Cambridge United yesterday. Went in their club shop.

Packed of all adult size and youth / kids. First, seconds and thirds. All new kit designs for this season. Second and third and bespoke designs.

And the manufacturers? Umbro.

Re: A month

Posted by Swiss Tony on 12/9/2024, 15:13:57, in reply to "Re: A month "

Well said mate.

Swiss

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 15:24:50, in reply to "Re: A month "

Is it though? It's just angry gammon ranting because someone has ciritised his mate

I am teasing, crumps, before this sets you off

Re: A month

Posted by bbb on 12/9/2024, 14:49:54, in reply to "Re: A month "

In fairness GS really didn't help himself with the month comment.

Re: A month

Posted by Ches Fordroad on 12/9/2024, 15:20:56, in reply to "Re: A month "

True.

He should've known that there would be folk literally counting down the seconds.

Actually, he's probably over the month already, given when he would've written those notes, when the programme was printed, when it first became available for someone to read .....

Re: A month

Posted by crumpsall on 12/9/2024, 14:56:00, in reply to "Re: A month "

Mate, seriously, anyone holding that strictly to the day/hour needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

And what do they think constant attacks on GS and 2020 is going to achieve?

Just pissing off the people who actually care and do things, that's all it will do. I wouldn't blame anyone from 2020 looking at the shit that's being thrown their way and thinking 'fuck this for a game of soldiers' and walking away.

Fortunately they're made of sterner stuff than the faceless keyboard wankers and a few attention seeking podcast freaks

Re: A month

Posted by Swiss Tony on 12/9/2024, 15:14:54, in reply to "Re: A month "

Absolutely correct Crumps.

Swiss

Re: A month

Posted by TRA on 12/9/2024, 15:53:03, in reply to "Re: A month "

Get your tongue out of his arse mate, it’s embarrassing

Re: A month

Posted by Swiss Tony on 12/9/2024, 19:53:07, in reply to "Re: A month "

I’ll do what I want honey.

He’s a top fella who warranted some support. I gave it, I don’t like Ince’s posts, mostly they are snide. Crumpsall is too polite to say that.

Go figure.

Swiss

Re: A month

Posted by TRA on 12/9/2024, 21:25:18, in reply to "Re: A month "

Pass me the bucket

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 20:02:36, in reply to "Re: A month "

He's called my posts snide plenty of times.

Not sure what is snide about any of the above

Re: A month

Posted by Plus on 12/9/2024, 20:31:01, in reply to "Re: A month "

Re: A month

Posted by Swiss Tony on 12/9/2024, 20:06:58, in reply to "Re: A month "

That is how you come across sometimes, no need to thank me….

Swiss

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 14:29:52, in reply to "A month "

It's also over 2 months since pre season began, and a month into the season and we still can't buy any new replica tops. There's a small handful of this/last seasons home too available.

Carlisle use Umbro and have had theirs available since June.

Re: A month

Posted by Hatman on 12/9/2024, 14:28:48, in reply to "A month "

Relax. We’ve got more pressing priorities, 3 points on Saturday 🙏

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 14:30:14, in reply to "Re: A month "

The new ground is bigger than a random 3 points

Re: A month

Posted by Round Green Hatter on 12/9/2024, 15:11:19, in reply to "Re: A month "

Get in a car, drive to power court, look at it with your eyes and see what the capital sky lads are doing. Then get back in the car go home and fist the dog/wife.

Re: A month

Posted by Doctor Ince on 12/9/2024, 15:26:11, in reply to "Re: A month "

I've seen. Was there yesterday.

Bizzare final sentence, if that's what you're into the crack on, maybe not with the dog, but I'll pass thanks

Re: A month

Posted by Attertap on 12/9/2024, 14:37:14, in reply to "Re: A month "

Although at some point we’re gonna need some “random” points.

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