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    The Flag

    Posted by Reasonable Hat on 10/9/2024, 7:59:30

    OK there has been a serious misjudgement from the board. I don't think they could have realised the amount of anger the flag issue has caused.
    To my mind they still have so much goodwill in the bank, but there are a few issues lately that they have fallen short on.
    Let's get on with PC, as well as a much needed win on Saturday.

      Re: The Flag

      Posted by Ground Crew on 10/9/2024, 15:21:43, in reply to "The Flag"

      Also, the flag covered up the rust patch in the main stand.

        Re: The Flag

        Posted by The Outsider on 10/9/2024, 15:38:11, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

        Another new name, Geoff - you'll soon run out at this rate.

        Re: The Flag

        Posted by Voice of reason on 10/9/2024, 8:36:45, in reply to "The Flag"

        If the FA paid to use the ground it’s unsurprising that they would not want the flag present. Is the money and kudos worth the temporary removal or covering of the flag for the duration of the game?

          Re: The Flag

          Posted by Grumpy on 10/9/2024, 8:48:13, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

          To my knowledge when the FA host a match at a stadium then they pay the host club to literally hire everything including staff.
          This is the second occasion in 2024 that the FA hired Kenilworth Road. On the first occasion the presence of the flag was noted but out of respect to its meaning it was left undisturbed. I know this as a fact.
          Last night a different FA department chose a different route it seems.
          I am pretty certain that this one is not on 2020 or the club staff.

          Re: The Flag

          Posted by RADSB on 10/9/2024, 8:32:31, in reply to "The Flag"

          How do you know the board made the decision?

          The ground has to adhere to UEFA guidelines and their admin may inspect the ground and make decisions.

            Even if that was the case

            Posted by Cuba on 10/9/2024, 9:26:41, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

            The club had ample opportunities to contact the respective supporters organisations and advise this.

            Re: The Flag

            Posted by Buzzard on 10/9/2024, 8:42:22, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

            It doesn't seem unreasonable that the club would have spoken to the supporters groups about this, in advance of the game.

            Surely they know we would have been rightly pissed off with it.

            The fact that they didn't is not ideal.

              Re: The Flag

              Posted by RADSB on 10/9/2024, 8:46:42, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

              I'm just saying let's get angry at the right people when we get the full story.

                Re: The Flag

                Posted by Hatters on 10/9/2024, 9:11:09, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                The club still allowed it to happen. We could have said no. Are the FA that petty? Are we as a club that desperate to suck up to the FA?

                  Re: The Flag

                  Posted by RADSB on 10/9/2024, 9:12:28, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                  Do the club have the right to veto UEFA or FA regs?

                    Re: The Flag

                    Posted by Super Fan Spotter on 10/9/2024, 9:38:53, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                    Did you go to the Luton match at the Hockey Stadium ?

                      Re: The Flag

                      Posted by Hatters on 10/9/2024, 9:15:28, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                      Not our problem, the club could have and should have said no.

                Re: The Flag

                Posted by Ches Fordroad on 10/9/2024, 8:34:00, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                "The ground has to adhere to UEFA guidelines"

                But as it was a friendly, I'd have assumed there aren't relevant, or at least not as onerous

                  Re: The Flag

                  Posted by RADSB on 10/9/2024, 8:37:02, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                  The UEFA regs seem to say so -
                  "Under the supervision of the UEFA administration, the participating teams must make the necessary arrangements so that friendly matches are organised on the dates when such teams are not involved in competition matches."

                    Re: The Flag

                    Posted by HH on 10/9/2024, 9:04:33, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                    If that's the case, isn't there an argument that we could have politely declined the FA's request to play the game at Kenilworth Road?

                      Re: The Flag

                      Posted by Hatters on 10/9/2024, 9:12:14, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                      Exactly.

                        Re: The Flag

                        Posted by Grumpy on 10/9/2024, 9:12:12, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                        That would be assuming that the terms of the contract stipulated the part coverage of that flag. If it did then whoever signed that off could be accused of misjudgement. If not and the decision was taken yesterday by the FA it’s a different ball game.

                          Re: The Flag

                          Posted by The Outsider on 10/9/2024, 9:55:23, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                          This has now been confirmed by the club

                          https://www.lutontownsupporterstrust.com/ltst-follow-up-statement-re-covering-of-betrayed-flag/

                            Re: The Flag

                            Posted by Hatters on 10/9/2024, 9:14:26, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                            and if the decision had been taken yesterday and the club as it should have done, declined the request to hide the flag then what would the FA have done? Called the game off at the last minute?

                              Re: The Flag

                              Posted by Grumpy on 10/9/2024, 10:52:40, in reply to "Re: The Flag"

                              It is highly likely that a single member of FA staff made the decision unilaterally on the day and as they hire the staff as well they will have asked the steward to cover it and keep it that way.
                              Any demand to uncover it during the match would likely fall on deaf ears.

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