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Edwards Overrated?
Posted by Themluton on 13/8/2024, 0:05:03
Is Edwards the messiah we thought he was?
He basically took on Jones’ team and was helped out massively by using his Villa contacts to get Nakamba.
Got a free ride in the prem because of the ‘little Luton’ image and other factors like Lockyer, injury crisis etc.
Found out massively when it mattered last season, couldn’t hold a draw to save his life, got tactically done by both Burnley and Sheff U at home.
No way would a NJ team rolled over like that and lost 1-4 to Burnley.
1 win in 18, conceding an average of 3 per game, yet because he’s media trained, handsome and had ‘great chats with Jurgen, Pep and Mikel’ last year, he gets off the hook. Was so reliant on the quality of Barkley and Lakonga last year to make anything happen. Persists playing this high press 5-back system - (which even Klopp told him was crazy), and keeps pissing points up the wall.
You conveniently forget we'd gone very stale under Jones. And before RE gets judged I think you'd need to know if it's him or the board refusing to spend money.
I can’t imagine it will be Rob refusing to spend the required money; I’m sure he would love to have another 3 or 4 quality players in the door. 2020 are looking to adopt the same transfer model as they have throughout their tenure.
I’m hoping we pull a few rabbits out the hat by the end of the month, otherwise it could be a disappointing season.
I’ve never thought he was the messiah that’s Nathan position. We could have stayed in the Prem with a better manager , some of his tactics were awful. The team is slowly losing that togetherness that NJ had instilled in the club. I said a few months ago that the fans will turn on him by November and he’ll be gone by Xmas
It was a massive transition to the prem and back to the championship.
Teams like Burnley know and can cope with that transition far better for a multitude of reasons.
I think Edwards will learn and whilst I don’t think we’ll be top half this season, I think we have the right man in charge and he’ll bring success again in the future.
Smilegate
Posted by Real Cuba on 13/8/2024, 0:12:33, in reply to "Edwards Overrated? "
For me is when it started to go wrong.
He and the club got a bit too sure of themselves.
Been rapidly downhill since.
No “bbb” and “be humble” they said.
Perhaps they should have listed to John Still.
Re: Edwards Overrated?
Posted by Toddingtonsteve on 13/8/2024, 0:11:20, in reply to "Edwards Overrated? "
I’ve always said this season is the test for Rob. He has to realise that just because Pep says he’s “doing the right things” if you’re conceeding an average of 3 goals a game it’s not the right thing.
We got a lot of praise off other managers last season because they were beating us but we made it fun. We wouldn't have got praise if we were beating them/taking points off them
I think he’s stuck in a tunnel vision approach, because we caught a few of the bigger sides cold between December - February, playing man for man, high press.
He also comes across star struck when speaking about the aforementioned managers, which probably solidifies in his head, that is the approach to go for.
Re: Edwards Overrated?
Posted by Music Critic on 13/8/2024, 0:09:21, in reply to "Edwards Overrated? "
Agreed. He’s capable of being more pragmatic, as he didn’t rip the script up when he first took over. He tweaked a few things and took us on another level, whilst keeping the core identities and principles.
Conversely, we now look the polar opposite to that successful side ; with the premise of playing attractive and attacking football, superseding any pragmatism and balance. As well as looking vulnerable at every opportunity, we also looked very basic going forward.
As you say, still a lot of credit in the bank, but performances like that will not continue to be tolerated at this level.
NJ found out that playing attractive football in this division isn't the be all and end all. When he realised is wasn't the way to go, he ripped up his plan, started again, and we became incredibly successful because of that pragmatism.
Agreed. I’d like to see us play a slightly more expansive brand than the 22/23 season; however I’d much prefer us to keep the same core principles, of being tough to beat and going direct when needed. Ultimately, every successful team is built on the foundation of being well balanced; we still look way off that.
We’ve won 1 game in 18 playing this man vs man high press. The playing style is largely responsible for a number of our injuries and clearly isn’t working. It needs tweaking, and fast, if we are to have a good season.
Absolutely not, GS and the disciples love their handsome manager who smiles for the cameras and does exactly what GS tells him to do. More of an observation. He plays this ultra attacking football because that’s what the premier league sides want. He’s more likely to go and get the wolves job if he’s got the attacking stats to back it up. Using LTFC as an experiment to try these tactics to impress premier league clubs and it’s not working.
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