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Lockyer
Posted by Lord Bergenstein on 6/8/2024, 23:06:48
Wonder if the lack of signings at centre back is soon going to be followed by an announcement that he is going to return to playing this season? There was some stories in some papers although they weren't the most reputable
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 10:35:54, in reply to "Lockyer"
The other thing is even if he does play again it's not going to be for months, so we still need someone until January at least
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Macca on 7/8/2024, 1:08:17, in reply to "Lockyer"
would be very surprised if he played again... Big loss for us but I hope he doesn't to be honest! 2 warnings should be enough, also think he has potential to be great pundit.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Old Black&White on 7/8/2024, 5:21:02, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Totally agree, imagine he went down injured again , there will be a moment of “ shit please no”….think that would be unfair firstly for his family and close friends, and the club, and more importantly himself. Think he will make the right decision…. For me he would make an excellent coach.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Sandgrounder on 7/8/2024, 8:16:38, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
How do you know what the right decision is? Are you Lockyer? Or a cardiologist with full access to his medical records? Eriksen has successfully returned to playing premier league and international football after the exact same surgery by the same surgeon. The fact that Lockyer had an episode of atrial fibrillation before his cardiac arrest and subsequent procedure makes absolutely no difference to whether he should play again.Maybe the medical advice will be to retire, but if it isn’t, the only ‘right decision’ is what Tom and his family want to do.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 10:08:05, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Yeah so what that he had a serious cardiac incident less than a year before having a second, slightly different, serious cardiac incident. Of course it makes a difference you big silly.
I agree the right decision is what he and his family decide to do based on medical advice, but I also agree with the other poster that any time he goes down people are going to be fearing the worst.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Sandgrounder on 7/8/2024, 10:35:12, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
So you’re a cardiologist as well as a virologist and vaccinologist now? OK. Certainly puts my more limited medical qualifications in the shade.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 10:36:21, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Yes, I rather think it does
Re: Lockyer
Posted by jimmyp on 7/8/2024, 10:21:44, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
I think it's more than 'slightly' different. Wasn't it reported that the latter was unequivocally nothing to do with the former?
Cheers, Jim
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 10:34:55, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Yes it was reported as completely unrelated.
If someone drove a Land Rover into the back of me and then 5 months later on a completely different stretch of road in a different part of the country a lorry ran over my car and put me out of action for a year I'd probably stop driving.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Sandgrounder on 7/8/2024, 10:36:49, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
And the award for most tenuous, irrelevant analogy of today goes to…
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 11:02:08, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
I tried to make it about cars because Jim likes cars.
The comparisons to Eriksen are equally irrelevant because although they have had the same issue, Lockyer has also had another heart issue. Might not be the same issue but it would be factored into any treatment and decisions
Re: Lockyer
Posted by jimmyp on 7/8/2024, 11:04:08, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Could you not have made it make sense as well?
Cheers, Jim
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 11:06:35, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
One of the other mate, soz
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 11:06:49, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Or*
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Hatters on 7/8/2024, 10:30:54, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
yes it's true that medically neither of the conditions are connected, but you have to wonder if there is an underlying problem somewhere because what are the odds of having both conditions in such a short time?
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Sandgrounder on 7/8/2024, 10:40:47, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
If only there were medical experts in cardiac medicine that could advise on such matters, we wouldn’t need to rely on completely uninformed speculation on football message boards. Maybe one day that dream will come true.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Hatters on 7/8/2024, 11:32:00, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
err yeah, which is what Lockyer and the club are doing.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 11:03:46, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea I'm going against medical advice given is posted this less than an hour ago
I agree the right decision is what he and his family decide to do based on medical advice, but I also agree with the other poster that any time he goes down people are going to be fearing the worst.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Sandgrounder on 7/8/2024, 11:07:42, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
I wasn’t replying to you in the message above.
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Doctor Ince on 7/8/2024, 11:10:34, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Ah seen. Apologies then
Re: Lockyer
Posted by sloopy on 7/8/2024, 9:04:32, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
You are correct, they have to make the decision collectively. I feel sad for him though, as it is the dream of so many children for so many years to play football at the top level, and as soon as he has got there it could and still have been taken away from him. One thing for sure though, is that we all wish the very best for him and his family
Re: Lockyer
Posted by Dave Hedgehog on 7/8/2024, 9:23:52, in reply to "Re: Lockyer"
Without knowing the ins and outs of his medical history or condition, I think the club and Locks have to explore every possibility of a return to playing so that the insurers will pay out for his lost transfer value and earnings.
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