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    Worth remembering

    Posted by joey diconio on 5/8/2024, 21:14:24

    We have 5 loan spots available, can’t imagine we’d go for that many but as the premier league kick off approaches fringe and young players should become available for loan, a KDH type in midfield and a central defender would be useful

      Re: Worth remembering

      Posted by Ltfc39 on 5/8/2024, 21:25:11, in reply to "Worth remembering "

      A big factor that hasn’t been mentioned enough is that clubs know we have £64M to spend in TV money and after Barkley and Giles transfers. Their price goes up 100%.

        Re: Worth remembering

        Posted by Why? on 5/8/2024, 22:03:12, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

        Their price goes up 100%.

        Why state that as fact?

          Re: Worth remembering

          Posted by The Outsider on 5/8/2024, 21:57:12, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

          £64m?

          Parachute payments last year were about £43.6m.

            Re: Worth remembering

            Posted by Ltfc39 on 5/8/2024, 22:09:39, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

            +about £12M in TV money, +£9M in trading.

              Re: Worth remembering

              Posted by The Outsider on 5/8/2024, 22:18:50, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

              We made a loss last time we were in this division after taking into account the TV money and, as has been suggested elsewhere on here, earlier today, our wage bill has probably gone up compared to last time as, even with relegation clauses, they probably wouldn't go back down as far as they went up and players that we signed last season will probably be on more this year than the players that we had in 2022/23.

              I am not sure about the club's tax position but we will probably have a hefty Corporation Tax bill, especially as a lot of the expenditure is of a capital nature so not allowable for tax.

            Re: Worth remembering

            Posted by joey diconio on 5/8/2024, 21:31:45, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

            Same as every other relegated team, might see us wait til closer to the deadline hoping demands drop from clubs and players

            Re: Worth remembering

            Posted by Sandgrounder on 5/8/2024, 21:23:24, in reply to "Worth remembering "

            But still only 25 squad places. If we assume

            Kaminski
            Krul
            Shea

            Hashioka
            Burke
            Mengi
            Andersen
            Holmes
            Bell
            Doughty

            Nakamba
            Baptiste
            Clark
            Pelly
            Chong

            Adebayo
            Morris
            Woodrow
            Brown
            Ogbene
            Townsend
            Taylor / new striker

            We’ve got 3 spaces (this assumes that McAtee goes) - for a centre back, central midfielder and ?LWB. How many will be permanent as opposed to a loan?

            Also been linked with Victor Moses. You'd assume that would be instead of Townsend, not as well as.

            Guess it’s possible that one of the injured defenders (Hashioka?) will be left out of the 25 for a loan signing til January.

              Re: Worth remembering

              Posted by Real Cuba on 5/8/2024, 21:33:20, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

              I fixed this for you last week.

              Get rid of Krul - he serves no purpose and wastes a squad space. Use an U21, who won't.

              Loan Holmes to someone - Port Value may need a new CB as theirs is going to the club closest to the River Mersey.

              Moses - 50 games in three years in Russia, is he even match fit? Seems a very odd move, he was an excellent player but like with Townsend, once the speed goes has he still got sufficient to contribute? I would agree, it would be him or Andros, not both.

              Sell Woodrow.

              That gives you 3 extra spaces and doesn't weaken the squad in the slightest.

                Re: Worth remembering

                Posted by The Outsider on 5/8/2024, 22:10:33, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                That gives you 3 extra spaces and doesn't weaken the squad in the slightest.


                That is your opinion rather than that of the manager and coaching staff.

                  Re: Worth remembering

                  Posted by Earls on 5/8/2024, 21:41:31, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                  As mentioned to you last week, three of the 25 have to be keepers. I’m no fan of Krul either, but it has to be him or another keeper eligible for the 25. It’s to stop clubs claiming an injury crisis unless three keepers are injured.

                    Re: Worth remembering

                    Posted by The Outsider on 5/8/2024, 22:06:50, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                    three of the 25 have to be keepers.

                    Have you got any reference for that. I queried it when it was stated before. I can't find anything that states that. Are you confusing the position with L1 and L2 where keepers don't count in the squad but you can only name 22 players.

                    Clubs shall be permitted to name up to a maximum number of Players in their Squad List based on the following provisions:
                    in respect of Championship Clubs, 25 Players of which a minimum of 8

                    must be a Home Grown Player; and

                    in respect of League One and Two Clubs 22 Players of which a minimum

                    of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.

                    The following Players do not need to be included in the Squad List to be eligible to play in League Matches:
                    in respect of Championship Clubs, any Under 21 Player (save for any

                    Under 21 Player who is registered with the Club on a Temporary Loan Transfer); and

                    in respect of League One Clubs and League Two Clubs:

                    any Under 21 Players; and

                    goalkeepers.

                    Guidance

                    Clubs are required to declare whether or not a Player is goalkeeper when submitting a registration application. Inaccurately declaring an outfield Player as a goalkeeper will constitute misconduct as a breach of the Club’s obligation to behave towards the League with the upmost good faith (as per Regulation 3.4).

                    Under 21 Players who are on Loan to Championship Clubs are counted towards the 25 Player limit for the purpose of the Squad List Regulation.

                    Each Club shall submit its Squad List to The League:
                    within 24 hours of a Transfer Window; or

                    such other date and time as may be notified by the League.

                    Guidance

                    The inclusion of this power is to amend the deadline for submitting Squad Lists where the 24 hour deadline would impact on a weekend/bank holiday.

                    A Club shall apply to:
                    include a Player on its Squad List; and/or

                    remove a Player from its Squad List,

                    by submitting a request to that effect to The League (in such manner as The League shall direct from time to time).

                    Guidance

                    All details to be uploaded via iFAS.

                    A Player shall be deemed to have been included or removed from a Club’s Squad List on receipt of The League’s confirmation of the same (which may be given electronically).
                    Changes to a Squad List may be made:
                    during the period of a Transfer Window; and

                    at other times only with the permission of The League.

                    Guidance

                    Changes inside a Transfer Window

                    Changes to the Squad List can be made at any time during the Transfer Window.

                    Clubs do not need to apply to the EFL for approval to make the change, Clubs only need to make the changes via iFAS.

                    In order to be eligible for a League Match during the Transfer Window, the Player (unless an exclusion applies) must be registered with the EFL and be included on the Squad List before the relevant League Match. The EFL recommends uploading the updated Squad List not less than 24 hours before the relevant League Match.

                    Changes outside of a Transfer Window

                    The League will only consider granting permission to make changes to the Squad List outside of a Transfer Window where:

                    the Club’s current Squad List contains less than the maximum number of

                    Players permitted to be included on the Squad List and the Club wishes to add an Out of Registration Player or another Player registered with the Club but not currently included on the Squad List, or

                    in other truly exceptional circumstances to include but not be limited

                    to those set out in the note from EFL Player Admin found on the EFL Portal.

                    The League will publish each Club’s Squad List and a list of all other Contract Players eligible to participate in League Matches but are not included on the Squad List, on the League’s official website within 7 days of the closing of a Transfer Window.

                      Re: Worth remembering

                      Posted by joey diconio on 5/8/2024, 21:43:54, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                      How annoying

                        Re: Worth remembering

                        Posted by Real Cuba on 5/8/2024, 21:46:50, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                        Worth getting Gerry Harrison back? He can cover a few positions including keeper....

                        (This will test a few).

                          Re: Worth remembering

                          Posted by Benfleethatter on 5/8/2024, 21:49:04, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                          Didn't he used to commentate on Anglia?

                            Re: Worth remembering

                            Posted by Ralph on 5/8/2024, 21:56:58, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                            And he's now in his 80's so should be cheap.

                              Re: Worth remembering

                              Posted by Real Cuba on 5/8/2024, 22:11:05, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                              Gerry Harrison was once in goal for us, although not the ITV Anglia commentator Gerry Harrison.

                      Re: Worth remembering

                      Posted by Sandgrounder on 5/8/2024, 21:37:26, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                      Maybe, but given that the club aren’t going to do any of those things - especially not loan out a centre back to a lower level than he’s ever played in the midst of a defensive injury crisis - your post is not relevant to reality.

                      Re: Worth remembering

                      Posted by joey diconio on 5/8/2024, 21:30:11, in reply to "Re: Worth remembering "

                      I wouldn’t be shocked if Hashi and Anderson were left out of the 25 til January, one of the problems with loans is even if U21 they count towards your 25.

                      I’d bin Krul from the 25 too if possible.

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