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Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 12:27:35
Is there a campaign to undermine our club and players? Lots of new name negativity on here, straight after the most remarkable story in the history of football.
Is it just one person with loads of names, or a few working together?
Normally I'd say "Hello Bushwood", but the current crop seem even more dense and bitter.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Rory on 5/8/2024, 0:19:08, in reply to "Seriously"
No ,you are right.We are sound in respect of CHalves there is no problem with injuries and we won't concede goals or put ourselves under pressure with results.
Re: Seriously
Posted by The Outsider on 5/8/2024, 0:37:48, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Is that how you interpreted what he posted?
Re: Seriously
Posted by Observer on 5/8/2024, 8:52:48, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Well it’s easier to interpret that what he said
Re: Seriously
Posted by Hatsworth on 4/8/2024, 19:43:27, in reply to "Seriously"
I’ve come to the conclusion there are a couple of man-children (or actual children) whose life experience is limited to playing 14 hours a day on football manager. As a result they don’t understand the difference between spending £5,000,000 of pretend money and spending £5,000,000 of actual money - that or they are equating pretend money and some else’s money to being the same thing (without any grip on reality).
Re: Seriously
Posted by joey diconio on 4/8/2024, 20:13:51, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Name and shame
Re: Seriously
Posted by Dave Hedgehog on 4/8/2024, 17:56:26, in reply to "Seriously"
I don't think there is a serious campaign from anyone credible to undermine the club.
There have always been a few strange people or strange fans from other clubs who post things on the internet to get attention and feel important.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 19:15:59, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
There's absolutely nothing serious about what they're doing, like Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda, absolutely pitiful.
They don't know that though.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Madpig on 4/8/2024, 17:28:22, in reply to "Seriously"
I'd say it's a couple of posters. However, one can only assume that, from their criticism of a so far successfully run club, they have vast experience in running a Football League club. Rather than whine, why don't they explain in detail how they'd do it; selecting possible transfers, making the player want to come here, making sure you don't get ripped off, and most importantly, do you have the money and will we fall foul of rules if we spend too much of it? In anticipation...😏
Re: Seriously
Posted by You what mate? on 4/8/2024, 17:34:20, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
There's been some seriously dumb posts on here the last few days but somehow, you managed to top them all. Well done. You dumb fuck.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Madpig on 4/8/2024, 19:19:56, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
And that was a knuckle dragger riposte. Sorry son , was that too much for you in one lump? I'll do it in wax crayon for you...Janet and John style. Maybe you should stay on Facebook. Far less challenging
Re: Seriously
Posted by You what mate? on 4/8/2024, 19:32:43, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
You just hit level 10 on the dumb fuck scale.
Re: Seriously
Posted by joey diconio on 4/8/2024, 18:50:46, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
🤣🤣🤣
Re: Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 17:36:08, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Hello Bushwood!
Re: Seriously
Posted by Observer on 4/8/2024, 17:40:01, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Well it’s got one of the hallmarks: the rarely spotted user name
Re: Seriously
Posted by Trondheim Hatter on 4/8/2024, 16:00:13, in reply to "Seriously"
I dont think anyone is deliberately trying to undermine the club. Maybe someone is somewhat critical to how the club communicate and feel a slight lack of information this season, certainly something im feeling a lot of.
When it comes to signings, I believe we are struggling to sign players due to the wage structure at the club, when you combine that with a healthy sceptisism of player agents then suddenly you find yourself limited in options.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 16:09:14, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Well that's good, I don't want my club spending over the odds, I want a club that will still be here in 100 years time. Surely we've all learnt that actually going to the football is far more important than the actual football?
Re: Seriously
Posted by Absolutely on 4/8/2024, 16:11:52, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
No one has suggested spending over the odds.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Observer on 4/8/2024, 17:38:20, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
You sure?
You not seen the posts demanding we spend the hundreds of millions of pounds sat doing nothing in the club’s bank account?
Re: Seriously
Posted by To be fair on 4/8/2024, 13:29:10, in reply to "Seriously"
The way RE was talking early summer about the financial strength of the club it built a lot of people’s expectations that we were going to be active in the transfer market which so far we haven’t, add to that our current injury crisis and many are worried that we will not be in a position to compete.! We look like we could start the season with only one experienced CB and having seen him play twice now. He doesn’t look like a top half championship CB to me.
Re: Seriously
Posted by joey diconio on 4/8/2024, 13:19:32, in reply to "Seriously"
Think it might be the Russians & North Korea
Re: Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 13:20:24, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
China also.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 4/8/2024, 13:11:04, in reply to "Seriously"
I actually feel sorry for some of these 'negative' posters.
One in particular seemed to hate last season and appears to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown before the start of this season.
Football is meant to be fun and a break from the norm, not a slide into deep depression.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Real Cuba on 4/8/2024, 13:43:54, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
I “hated” last season due to the inevitability of it all but more that with other clubs having points docked it meant we had a golden opportunity to take advantage.
How good would it have felt to stick two fingers up at the Elite and send clubs like Forest or Everton down.
Like we have now, a great opportunity to stand a decent chance to go back up but are blowing it because…..for whatever reasons.
It’s hardly a meltdown but those of us in our sixties would rather season the club do well than not, particularly when we have 8 or 9 top class players at this level. Younger fans may be more patient but I remember Southend away and the floodlight match, I think that was our first season in this level after relegation from Division 1 in 1992. Shows how quickly clubs become mundane and the decline continues - we could have done down again that day.
Holmes, Pelly and Woodrow are not at the level we need and we need to get better players in.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Hmm on 4/8/2024, 16:32:33, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
'but are blowing it'
You really are nothing but a nasty, lying, negative troll on a mission of destruction
Reminiscent of a non Luton fan who harassed SB back in the day
Re: Seriously
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/8/2024, 14:59:33, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Youngsters in their sixties should stop whining.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Hmm on 4/8/2024, 14:42:08, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
'but are blowing it'
You really are nothing but a nasty, lying, negative troll on a mission of destruction
Reminiscent of a non Luton fan who harassed SB back in the day
Re: Seriously
Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2024, 14:44:21, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Another new name today?
Re: Seriously
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 4/8/2024, 14:34:29, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
I think in years to come you will regret not enjoying last season more. I can't speak for everyone but myself and the group that I go with thoroughly enjoyed it.
When you consider the awful times we have had, last season was an absolute blast. Add in the financing for the ground and the dome and securing the clubs future and I struggle to understand any negativity about last season at all.
I'm certainly not a 'happy clapper' but I truly don't see much to whine about.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Observer on 4/8/2024, 14:02:00, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
I would suggest a good number of “us” in our 50s and 60s can remember only too well the various crises the club had endured since the early 1970s and have no great desire to self-inflict another one, particularly those who invested a lot of their own time and effort (not to mention money in some cases) to resolve matters.
I take it you’ll be happy to step forward next time, in the event of things going tits up?
Re: Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 14:26:09, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
+1.
Re: Seriously
Posted by joey diconio on 4/8/2024, 13:26:15, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
NAME AND SHAME
Re: Seriously
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 4/8/2024, 13:42:58, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Take a rough guess
Re: Seriously
Posted by mmee on 4/8/2024, 12:41:49, in reply to "Seriously"
The club aren’t above being questioned or challenged.
The lack of transfer activity since last summer has been underwhelming.
Saying that doesn’t mean there is an agenda or that the club haven’t been brilliant for the previous 10 years.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Just an observation on 4/8/2024, 14:19:42, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Yes, some appear incapable of making that distinction, unless it is done to muddy the waters?
Re: Seriously
Posted by Desperate Dan on 4/8/2024, 13:14:57, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
The club are working on transfers.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Just an observation on 4/8/2024, 14:22:02, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
I would imagine they are, although they were also working on them in January but were unable to deliver most of what they hoped for whatever reasons.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Dave on 4/8/2024, 13:19:45, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Prove it.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Desperate Dan on 4/8/2024, 13:37:18, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
No Dave. I dont have to prove anything.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Toddingtonsteve on 4/8/2024, 13:02:03, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
The last time the Board panicked and signed someone because of fan unrest we ended up with Colin Samuels. Never again
Re: Seriously
Posted by TRA on 4/8/2024, 17:18:00, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Hashioka???
Re: Seriously
Posted by Observer on 4/8/2024, 13:56:15, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
🎯
Re: Seriously
Posted by James on 4/8/2024, 12:52:43, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
How do you know there is a lack of activity
Re: Seriously
Posted by Midnight Son on 4/8/2024, 12:47:15, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Something in both views. It's the idiot extremes as usual causing ill-feeling. . The clubs history bearing in mind all factors has been very good for a long time now so yes they should be trusted based on their track record. But you can also understand how close to the wind the squad depth seems to be to a lot fans.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Real Cuba on 4/8/2024, 12:41:18, in reply to "Seriously"
With respect why is asking about the squad size undermining?
Even the manager looked and sounded frustrated about the situation yesterday.
Some may have bigger axes to grind but personally most just want the four signings we desperately need to materialise.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 12:55:00, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
My post is about WHO is doing the asking, not the questions themselves.
As it happens, I think we do need a couple of really decent signings, but I trust our recruitment team. They rarely get it wrong. Also, the season doesn't really kick in until January. If I remember rightly we were about 15th going into the new year in the season we eventually finished sixth.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Garstang Hatter on 4/8/2024, 13:02:25, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
I'd argue that it's also HOW they are asking the questions. It's quite possible to argue that we need a couple of signings without blaming GS, suggesting that the board are refusing to provide funds or are actively taking funds out of the club before selling (as someone did earlier, I think), etc. Things like that do seem very targeted and with no evidence, which is rather suspect.
Re: Seriously
Posted by joey diconio on 4/8/2024, 13:30:05, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
When you refuse to communicate with your customers on the most basic things and refuse to be honest in your dealings with customers, it leaves things open to interpretation.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2024, 14:23:26, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
This is the crux of it, and to be honest it's partly Luton News fault.
Who is an independent voice asking these questions? Why have we got so many long term injuries and when are any of them due back?
What is happening with transfers?
Why are we always the last to announce our kits, and what happened this season, given keeping the same kit clearly wasn't our original plan
Re: Seriously
Posted by bbb on 4/8/2024, 14:41:00, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Have you asked tried asking the Trust?😉😁
Re: Seriously
Posted by Doctor Ince on 4/8/2024, 14:45:10, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
In all seriousness though I actually have. No response yet but it's the weekend
Re: Seriously
Posted by bbb on 4/8/2024, 13:50:28, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Spot on.
At worst, it's complete arrogance, at best it's rude.
Re: Seriously
Posted by James on 4/8/2024, 13:45:11, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Who's not being honest, we all know you have a long standing agenda on wanting to know what pants the players wear.
Re: Seriously
Posted by joey diconio on 4/8/2024, 13:55:39, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
I will not engage with non loyal customers like you
Re: Seriously
Posted by The Outsider on 4/8/2024, 13:28:15, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
An example of this is the persistently posted myth about Gary Sweet's supposed £4 million bonus being posted under numerous names (no idea how many different posters are involved) but I have spoken to people who have read or heard about it and thought that it was true until I told them that it wasn't.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Observer on 4/8/2024, 14:05:32, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
I’d like someone to make these claims publicly, where they can be identified. They won’t even try and substantiate anonymously but surely if they’re as certain of their facts then they’d have no problem putting their name(s) to it.
Re: Seriously
Posted by joey diconio on 4/8/2024, 13:32:06, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
You only have to check the accounts on companies house to see the top paid director at the club only trousered a meagre £1.3m
Re: Seriously
Posted by Farhat on 4/8/2024, 13:21:49, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Yes mate!
Re: Seriously
Posted by Nick NBH on 4/8/2024, 12:51:25, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
He also said that players we wan to sign have to buy into the long term (the project so to speak). That implies that talks have been held with some players who wouldn`t have been a good fit. And as we know, the team spirit is vital to this team. No point signing "bad apples" for the sake of appeasing internet bed wetters.
Having said that we do need reinforcements in central defence and central midfield. We have 2 squad spaces if no one moves out. I suspect at least one of Krull, Mcatee and Townsend will move which creates an extra space.
2 permanent and a premier loan possibly? Window doesn't shut until the end of August. Spending money , or record fees is no guarantee of success.
I`d rather the judgment or Rob Edwards and Mick over any internet football manager expert but thats just me..
Re: Seriously
Posted by BK on 4/8/2024, 13:24:20, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Don't waste your time..the agitators don't deal 8n facts or common sense or the whole picture.
Either lack of brain cells, no life's, jealousy or just no education..
Whatever reason bet they sit alone in a pub.
Re: Seriously
Posted by The Outsider on 4/8/2024, 13:30:54, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
The problem is that, if lies are posted often enough, people start to believe them.
Posted by Observer on 4/8/2024, 14:07:12, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
The lie is halfway around the world before the truth has its boots on
Re: Seriously
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 4/8/2024, 14:31:35, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Exactly.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Earls on 4/8/2024, 13:12:23, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Good post. Edwards’ comments on “The Project” imply we aren’t going to change policy. Rightly so: it got us promotion last time. The issue is, now it’s clear Bell will be the only player back by the end of August, why we haven’t moved sooner, knowing the restraints. Saying the window doesn’t close until the end of August is kind-of irrelevant, when the injury crisis (which again Edwards will have known the prognosis on return times) means we have to move quickly, unless we start the season with very little cover, as cost us last season.
Re: Seriously
Posted by Just an observation on 4/8/2024, 14:32:43, in reply to "Re: Seriously"
Is that right that Bell will be the only one back before the end of August? If correct, he is a good one to get back
Re: Seriously
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